Where are the young earthers?

Yes, a typical creationist "explanation". A wild claim, no references, no data, no discussion, no reasoningA "huge canyon formed at Kanab Creek in a few hours during a recent flood. This river is also a meander." with no further reference. An explanation would include a discussion of why the author thinks the Kanab creek is the same as the Grand Canyon, and comparisons of the geology and the streams involved, with data and references to more information. Without that it's just blowing smoke. No. Slow erosion incises meanders. Fast erosion does not produce meanders. If there are meanders already present, incised in rock (not soft sediments), fast erosion can cut them deeper ... in a characteristic manner that's not seen in the meanders of the Grand Canyon.Of course, if the Grand Canyon was produced in a few days/weeks by the drainage of a global flood, there would have been no preexisting meanders, and no meanders would have been created. Try a basic geology textbook, especially "incised meanders".

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No. Slow erosion incises meanders. Fast erosion does not produce meanders. If there are meanders already present, incised in rock (not soft sediments), fast erosion can cut them deeper ... in a characteristic manner that's not seen in the meanders of the Grand Canyon.

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--Do you know of any published geological research on this? It sounds more like an issue that only a YEC would look into.Cheers,
-Chris Grose

IIRC Strahler discusses it in "Science and Earth History", which is a couple of decades old and has the worst typography known to Man, but has loads of references. There's more but I don't have the references.There's some interest in the effects of fast-moving water in mainstream geology

More than that, the growth in the creek is several years old, and looks to be a mature development for the ecosystem there. This channel is not recently carved in that form, period.

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