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xBobTheAlienx
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Message 1 of 79 (99337)
04-11-2004 10:29 PM


Mark 14:36 And He said, "Abba, Father, all things are possible for You. Take this cup away from me; nevertheless, not what I will, but what You will."
Rev 19:6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as
the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
Omnipotent: Able in every respect and for every work; unlimited in ability; all-powerful; almighty ((Webster's))
Tts 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
Hmmm........ which of these is right? can He or can He not lie?

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xBobTheAlienx
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Message 5 of 79 (99428)
04-12-2004 1:21 PM


WILLOWTREE:
First let me start by saying I named this thread incorrectly. It really has nothing to do with the quesiton of whether or not God can lie; I am merely pointing out a blatant contradiction in the Scriptures.
Second, the point of pointing out contradictions is to show that the Bible is no the Word of God. You are right; God would not write a book which contradicts itself and shows Him to be a liar. Think about it: if He cannot write a book that doesnt contradict itself, how can He make a universe?
Again, sorry about the incorrect name for the thread; this is about contradcitions, not lying. My bad.

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xBobTheAlienx
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Message 7 of 79 (99463)
04-12-2004 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by mike the wiz
04-12-2004 2:10 PM


mike, if you would have read the first message of this thread, you would see a contradiction. If you choose to ignore that one, here are a few more:
24,000 / 23,000 died in plague.
Num 25:9 / 1 Cor 10:8
David took 700 / 7000 horsemen.
2 Sam 8:4 / 1 Chron 18:4
All / not all cattle, horses died.
Ex 9:3,6 / Ex 14:9
Penalty for David's sin was seven / three years famine.
2 Sam 24:13 / 1 Chron 21:11,12
Now, can you honestly say there are no contradictions in the Bible?

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xBobTheAlienx
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Message 16 of 79 (99703)
04-13-2004 2:23 PM
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04-12-2004 8:51 PM


The contradiction in post 1 is that the first 2 verses say that God is all-powerful and can do all things, but the third verse says he cannot lie, and He is therefore no capable of doing all things, and therefore no omnipotent.
I am glad that the Christians here are willing to admit there are errors in the translations. I know plenty of Christians who would try to say something like "well the 700 horses is reffering to only the full-grown male horses, while the 7000 is reffering to all of them". Ive been going to Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa my whole life, and 99.95% of the people there are retards who make moronic explanations and refuse to admit when they are wrong. They try to weasle their way out of their incorrectness with weak, obscure, idiotic arguments. This,in my opinion, is why so many people hate Christians; most are unable to use logic and reason.

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