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Brad McFall
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Message 1 of 15 (18137)
09-24-2002 11:21 AM


If this was a mineral it would be quartz but it was::
wEll I guess I was still collecting fiddleheads for Phillip Johnson was mistaken to think that what comes now was already available on the philsophy of science level. If you are not converted beware of a twist with every period. I am not really this good a trying author for the man the text reveals.
This is the rossette stone ANNE found but Jack spat it out.
In high school I wrote: Honest Anne, this is what is on the paper::
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4. Philosophy of Science
A. Things that got me into philosophy [added at some later date--THE WANT TO BE ABLE TO INTEGRATE WHATEVER I DO INTO A LARGER PICTURE]
1. Not want to be narrowminded and so specialized like ?{Ucom??} wanted to.
2.Is Science valid?
If man is to make some scientific theory about how he works it will have to be able to explain the many varied activities of the human race. Including ethics, common sense, religion, culture ec. How can such a theory be so all encompasing?
B.[added at a later date -- HOW A SET ABOUT LEARNING PHILOSOPHY] Ordination as Elder
1. sense of Religion I wouldnt have gotten
2. I don't really belive in my heart the vows but I wanted to find out what religion was like and maybe experience something that would convince me that religion is something to believe in.
C. Involvement with youth experience.
--Consciousness my main focus now
1. same basic questions as above and must be all encompassing
2. Origin of Consciousness and the Breakdown of the bicameral mind
a. answers ethics, religion, and culture
b.not common sense or what a theory of consciousness would be like.
3. Scientific views are split.
a. Reductionism- Whole understood by sum of parts
1-mainstream - worked well in other sciences
A-Quantum mechanics
B-Molecular Biology
C- Genetics
2-Can explain much of western thought - new theory science
b. What about the east thought
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Hardly a Rosette Stone. I think I pretty much said this much .
All I can say is the the Egyptians had a very much more visual system of glyphs that look (I learned to prefer glyphics to any entertainment we get on the tube) was revealed without the blind guide of statistical mechanics but the economic independence could gain say both, the visual and other views, of {two spectrums not Derrida on Marx (spectral color particular) }what was so turned. bUt I do not have to keep saying what I mean. It is not as hard to undertandy what I write as some claim. I use the technology not as a tool but as a machine. Marx never knew but to Hegel I think not.
The psychological profile being taught at CU was not able to collect my coversion TO GOD from rejecting Dawkins's so-called geneic selectionism WHILE IT IS POSSIBLE TO REJECT DAWKINS AND NOT BELIVE IN GOD. That was my choice. This is no excuse for failure of Central NY School to reject Western NY teachers but it was a dispute in the generation before me that sacrificed "the student" for an economic that was to be but was not. I USED my parents $ and my DEDICATION but the combination was not rewardable becasue it spanned in extension what was being retained in intention. At some point ANne I need the space just to expres my self for that is not a pose or poser etc. My generation is already being surpassed but I will outlive my grandparents who gave me the keys to the Crysler so when I say that CU IS NOT able to distinguish a false postitive meme from geneic criticism you claim incomprehension at your own anthropological peril. I am not interested in taking the sentences apart unless there was some goal other than posting tit and that onto tats etc etc FOR IN MY CASE it was never reasonable to hospitalize the college student. Cornell was "looking for" so-called "bench-mark indications" which included "GOD CONTROLS MY THOUGHTS". Yes I was telling people at Cornell this and they locked me down regardless that behind this claim was A MORE PHYSICAL ONTOLOGY OF BIOLOGY than any other at Cornell I ever met. That statement is classed as an illusion and so if you did not read enough of my posts back up, for there is NO PHILOSOPHICAL grasp of creation/evooution discourse without this which ipso facto at CU gets one commited EVEN IF THERE IS NOT SCIENCE behind it and yet in my Case I had been to Princeten Seminary a year or so before discussing Einstein and Religion with TH Torrance who said I was a "prodigy". I learned this at home. Please take note. Philp Johnson is not the last word on this and I know that what Gish denied in his ORIGIN OF LIFE tape *could* be fact but in that case his position would be even stronger.
I did not realize that the academy is but a frat writ large. IT is. I am sorry. I was deluded that towers to the sky could be built. NOt yet at least. The problem here is not a difference between religions as Provine had it and tried to make the myth this way on the Jeovah's Witness. Pascal is no myth. The axiomatic propositionalism has never been really tried in Evolutionary THOUGHT and the extnent that it does it does not reason to motion sensu stricto but already within the combined concepts that operate most of the biological landscape.
This high school outline was before I bought The Selfish Gene from the Science Center in Toronto and on reading this at first rejected the Bicameral Mind hypothesis for Dawkins's genes to memes but then realized that this idea made no sense because GOD could just change the conditons Dawkins invokes. I went with GOd from then on and never looked back into this chaos. There ant no sunshine when she goes this way. All of the doubts were removed in the past 10 yrs and 9-11 makes it just as obvious as this writing is revealing that immaturity in the faith is no excuse to excuse others of salvation. Dont do it. Please.
I found out more than I could have even if I had sold soul devil wanted. All I ever hear on these site any more is the truth and people who wanted to be conviced of the converse that religion is something validiated NOT to believe in. You will never find this side if you dont start with the baby shoes.
You are correct, these are broken sentences but so it became deep down in my heart.
[This message has been edited by Brad McFall, 09-25-2002]

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Andya Primanda
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Message 2 of 15 (18187)
09-24-2002 11:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Brad McFall
09-24-2002 11:21 AM


umm... whats this? Anne, I think Brad's calling for you to reply?
btw, Brad, you major in Philosophy of Science?

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Brad McFall
Member (Idle past 5053 days)
Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 3 of 15 (18255)
09-25-2002 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Andya Primanda
09-24-2002 11:37 PM


No, but when Von Weisacker came to CU to lecture on infinity and quantum theory (the poltical scientist of Germany whose father tried to stop Hilter)and I CORRECTED him on his confusing Cantor's notion in Aristotlian Scholarhip ASSUMED that phil, math or phys was my major. He wasnt prepared for me to tell him I was a biologist. My borther Greg did this trio at VPI and was getting on with Larry Lauden before he went commerical. I could not avoid Richard Boys however becasue Provine was not on the top of his game bur running a marathon. Pace is not Grace.

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acmhttu001_2006
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Message 4 of 15 (18273)
09-25-2002 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Andya Primanda
09-24-2002 11:37 PM


I will reply, as soon as I have about an hour to sit down and go through his post.
Brad, this was well done, and I could understand it, just need time to assimilate it and express my thoughts.
I will respond soon.
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Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
Thanks and have a nice day

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acmhttu001_2006
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Message 5 of 15 (18274)
09-25-2002 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Brad McFall
09-24-2002 11:21 AM


Brad what is the meaning of the topic? It does not make sense.
Please clarify.
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Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
Thanks and have a nice day

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Brad McFall
Member (Idle past 5053 days)
Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 6 of 15 (18284)
09-25-2002 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by acmhttu001_2006
09-25-2002 1:41 PM


Dear Anne;
Please email me at bsmcfall@hotmail.com and give me your snail mail ad-dress and I will send you a copy of some videos I produced at PEGASYS, CH13 Ithaca NY on evolution and creation if you *really* want to pursue this line of attack. A picture in this case may, if I may say so could be for you worth more than thousands of valley's in the amazon etc.
No one else on the web has bothered to take me up on this offer when I have extended it before. They prefer not make light but Maxwell's comparison of polarized light beyond the difference of white and black.
Or Look up #. It is not unlisted.
I tried to be fair and allow the callers in to choose which they want to go with the topic. I have been biased to creationism however on the net. Seeing this could help to balance out your opinion. There is also a tour of my grandfather's natural history museum at SUNY fredonia that he built as I grew up.
Hope this helps.

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Joe Meert
Member (Idle past 5700 days)
Posts: 913
From: Gainesville
Joined: 03-02-2002


Message 7 of 15 (18285)
09-25-2002 5:20 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by acmhttu001_2006
09-25-2002 1:41 PM


quote:
Originally posted by acmhttu001_2006:
Brad what is the meaning of the topic? It does not make sense.
Please clarify.

Anne,
A word of caution. If you understand what Brad is talking about, please tell the rest of us. This guy (if he is not a bot) has some mental problems. In one of his more lucid moments he revealed this to us on another board. I forget the psychological term for his word play (stream of conciousness?). Anyway, be very careful as he seems smitten with you.
Cheers
Joe Meert

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Brad McFall
Member (Idle past 5053 days)
Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 8 of 15 (18354)
09-26-2002 12:13 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Joe Meert
09-25-2002 5:20 PM


That is not true JOE. Cornell Univeristy trumpetd when not trumped up this charge to me.
Joe if you do not answer this question. IT is you who are an idiot. I never said Frank was. Sumac was kind enough to send me a personal e-mail to which I responded so if you refuse to answer my question I will consider you offical dissed girl friend.
////?????DO you think the federal govt's support of the distinction of cellular effects of ionizing vs nonionizing radiation has any basis in BIOLOGICAL reality. If in fact you do, please provide the spreadsheet linked so that we can all see by what means you intended to give me 28something EXTRA dollars for rent that I got today based on paper work in GOV computers????
There seems to be some disconnect generally between the access to the data and database parralell strucutre that has not even basis in computer science.
If you continue to slander my name there will not be a consequecne for you.
Please leave you comments to me in the form you have done in the past. I am tired of correcting these psychology papers.

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acmhttu001_2006
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Message 9 of 15 (18389)
09-27-2002 12:51 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Brad McFall
09-25-2002 5:09 PM


Well, Brad,
I do like this philosophy and the manner in which you are pursuing it. I am willing to look at any evidence that anyone brings up and will consider it with an open-mind.
I will e-mail you tomorrow, becuase I am on limited time. You have brought up some things that I am not sure of or need to read a little about, before I can continue the argument.
Thanks, See you tomorrow.
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Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
Thanks and have a nice day

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acmhttu001_2006
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Message 10 of 15 (18390)
09-27-2002 12:53 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Joe Meert
09-25-2002 5:20 PM


Joe,
Thanks, I posted a reply to his message six, before reading this one. Perhaps a more neutral address than my regular address. Or rather, I shall ask for names of resources.
Thanks for the warning, not sure what does or not sound right in regards to him.
Have a nice day.
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Anne C. McGuire
Cell and Molecular, Mathematics, Piano and Vocal Performance Majors
Chemistry and Physics minors
Thanks and have a nice day

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Message 11 of 15 (18398)
09-27-2002 1:52 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Brad McFall
09-26-2002 12:13 PM


Brad - I'll make this my first real comments, using my new "admin mode" name.
While Joes evalution is quite harsh, the reality is, in the context of this forum, your posting style is truly in a distinctive realm.
Adminnemooseus
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Stepping out of admin mode:
Back on 8/4/02, I did start the "Brad McFall" topic. It can be found at http://EvC Forum: Brad McFall -->EvC Forum: Brad McFall
minnemooseus

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Joe Meert
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Message 12 of 15 (18407)
09-27-2002 6:51 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Adminnemooseus
09-27-2002 1:52 AM


quote:
While Joes evalution is quite harsh, the reality is, in the context of this forum, your posting style is truly in a distinctive realm.
Adminnemooseus
Moose,
I want to point out again, that Brad has admitted his problem on another board. So, while my post may have been harsh, Brad cannot deny the truth of it-well I suppose he could, but he has previously publicly stated that he has some problems. I will also acknowledge that this may not be a reason to ignore what he says, but I also want others to be careful.
Cheers
Joe Meert

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Brad McFall
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Message 13 of 15 (18421)
09-27-2002 11:13 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Adminnemooseus
09-27-2002 1:52 AM


Thank You.

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Brad McFall
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Message 14 of 15 (18425)
09-27-2002 11:25 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Joe Meert
09-27-2002 6:51 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Joe Meert:
I want to point out again, that Brad has admitted his problem on another board. So, while my post may have been harsh, Brad cannot deny the truth of it-well I suppose he could, but he has previously publicly stated that he has some problems. I will also acknowledge that this may not be a reason to ignore what he says, but I also want others to be careful..
Joe, on the flip side; I have no animosity towards you but you have obviously never dealt the more radicle of psyche types THAT GET STRAIGHT As is psyhchology at CU. There people are genuinely nice even WHEN they disagree with one. I had problems in that I did not graduate CU despite my seeming earler credit to my grade but that is not what is so-called "problematic" in any post-modern sense. The only thing you said that I would have wanted corrected was something factual that you said on NO ANSWERS IN GENESIS as to previous c/e boards I have posted on. I did not recognize the initials you cited I was "from". You can after the fact blame a "hack" for what I saw but it was not true.
There can not be the reason to ignore me because I simply read science and post what I red and what I am writing IS science. You can disagree that the internet is doing something new economically for the field but then I would cordially be in disagreement but not ad hominem with you for whatever word was miss, spelled.
ICE a dore is not a DOOR.
The map showed the line to MAGOG and not a grog of beer.
The truth of IT is that my son would accept his mother claim that I am dead beat without knowing how to teach either how a galvanometer works or specific gravity while what you actually mean to refer to happened before this became in truth a bit rather perverted. You are free to have some other version of my life-story;work but please do keep it nice as Mayr once insisted I do. Others can and since we are using computers and not meeting on a face to face basis I do not see why could not be so bitten in the group selected TO NOT BE a Meat eater etc (speaking as biologist and not personally anymore). I dont care if you eat wistling shrimp as if these had actually been created and not man-made.

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Message 15 of 15 (18439)
09-27-2002 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Brad McFall
09-27-2002 11:25 AM


You shore do talk purty Brad.
Cheers
Joe Meert

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