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notwise
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Message 1 of 26 (220469)
06-28-2005 1:35 PM


moved from PNT by AdminJar
http://www.usatoday.com/...ce/2005-04-26-next-einstein_x.htm
Not Found - The New York Times
Isnt this exciting?
Physics is waiting for the next Einstein. I want to hear {spelling edited by AdminJar} peoples speculations about the next Einstein if there is one.
I would like to hear about what people will think he will be like and the exciting places he will take physics, the problems he will have getting recognized.
I just like to speculate about such things.
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Sylas
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Message 2 of 26 (220484)
06-28-2005 1:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by notwise
06-28-2005 1:35 PM


The next Einstein was communal.
Many dramatic developments in science take place without a single clearly defined individual standing out from the rest, and even in cases where there is an outstanding individual, the human propensity for telling stories will sometimes single out one individual a bit beyond what is really warranted.
My view: the next major development has already taken place. It was quantum mechanics; a development which is substantially more dramatic and significant than relativity. But it does not have an easily identified hero.
Curiously, Einstein himself received a Nobel prize, and it was not for relativity. It was for his work on the photoelectric effect and quantum mechanics. But Einstein does not stand out as the one great leader in this development. No one individual does; this is a case where you can't so easily tell the story with a single hero. There were Schroedinger, Bohr, Planck, Heisenberg, and many others.
Cheers -- Sylas

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Modulous
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Message 3 of 26 (220496)
06-28-2005 2:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by notwise
06-28-2005 1:35 PM


GUT
The next Einstein will be the one who makes the leap and formulates the Grand Unified Theory. I speculate that the next Einstein will be long dead before the wonderous possibilities of the maths are even tapped, and the implications are truly understood. As Sylas said, his work will be largely contributory in nature, but it will be this work that is said to be the big one.
I doubt it will usher in a new age of mankind or anything, but I hope I'm around to see it.
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Harrism
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Message 4 of 26 (221810)
07-05-2005 12:42 AM


I wouldnt be so sure; the next einstein will find a way of making himself known, whether as a kid or as an adult he wont be able to keep his ideas to himself.

  
mansouryar
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Message 5 of 26 (339537)
08-12-2006 12:38 PM


TOOOOOOO HOTTTTTTTT
Hi everybody,
The next Einstein is alive and is just a kid and is Iranian and ... is me! Maybe it's not cool to address the members of one forum to another, but I assume you're enough open-minded and invite you to visit this 3-pages discussion;
http://www.greenenergyinvestors.com/index.php?showtopic=2...
Farewell
P.S.: Maybe we could launch a similar dicussion, OK?

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CK
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Message 6 of 26 (339544)
08-12-2006 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by mansouryar
08-12-2006 12:38 PM


Re: TOOOOOOO HOTTTTTTTT
As a millionare with too much time on my hands I'd love to invest in your Spacewarp idea - sadly I just signed a deal with a different scientific group to fund their work on a anti-gravity engine.

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mansouryar
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Message 7 of 26 (339592)
08-12-2006 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by CK
08-12-2006 1:15 PM


Re: TOOOOOOO HOTTTTTTTT
Hi CK,
Thanks for your words. Hmmm, let me see, if you've read my paper you'd know my plan is so huge and complicated that anti-gravity is just a part of it (to reduce tidal forces on the passing spacecraft and humanoid passengers). By the way, I'm a cool guy and I could work with all trends (maybe if you'd give me the (possible) website of those your partners, I could become a friend of them!); maybe the results of that team could be useful for the bigger idea of a practical spacewarp and that can't be problematic if you really could support the finance of the project.
Besides, anti-gravity machines could give you an incredible ability to travel on the ground and air but I don't think you could go by them very far from the earth, but spacewarps could cause interstellar and intergalactic travels ...
How about that one, man?
However, that's your money and you should decide how to spend it.
Anyway, I enjoyed of you message.
Cheers,
Mammad

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nator
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Message 8 of 26 (339661)
08-12-2006 7:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by notwise
06-28-2005 1:35 PM


Re: moved from PNT by AdminJar
quote:
I would like to hear about what people will think he will be like and the exciting places he will take physics, the problems he will have getting recognized.
I think that she will have no problems getting recognitzion.
Edited by schrafinator, : No reason given.

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Son Goku
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Message 9 of 26 (339675)
08-12-2006 7:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by notwise
06-28-2005 1:35 PM


Einstein II
I would like to hear about what people will think he will be like and the exciting places he will take physics, the problems he will have getting recognized.
There is several directions to go in at the moment.
They could resolve the R evolution issue in Quantum Mechanics(the measurement paradox).
Or how General Relativity's block time approach to causality can be reconciled with QM's more conventional one.
As well as several other conceptual questions raised by putting Quantum Field Theory and General Relativity together.
There are also Witten type geniuses. This kind may solve problems like giving Quantum Field Theory a rigorous mathematical foundation, or solving the Navier-Stokes equation.

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crashfrog
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Message 10 of 26 (339693)
08-12-2006 9:18 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by nator
08-12-2006 7:34 PM


Re: moved from PNT by AdminJar
I think that she will have no problems getting recognitzion.
So apparently you don't think this figure will emerge for about one thousand years?

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Omnivorous
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Message 11 of 26 (339695)
08-12-2006 9:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by notwise
06-28-2005 1:35 PM


AI
I think the next Einstein will likely be an artificial intelligence. Our machines are already faster, stronger, and play better chess.
When we say, Brainiac, destroy the insolent inhabitants of that planet, it will say, "You know I can't do that, Dave."
Its work will allow us to focus on more important things like having sex on other planets and making cabernets so good they leave you speechless.

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nator
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Message 12 of 26 (339756)
08-13-2006 3:26 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by crashfrog
08-12-2006 9:18 PM


Re: moved from PNT by AdminJar
quote:
So apparently you don't think this figure will emerge for about one thousand years?
*sigh*

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mansouryar
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Message 13 of 26 (340380)
08-15-2006 7:35 PM


How about this one?
schrafinator,
Why Einstein? Don't you think the term "next Mary Curie" is better?

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Omnivorous
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Message 14 of 26 (340394)
08-15-2006 8:41 PM
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08-15-2006 7:35 PM


Re: How about this one?
mansouryar writes:
Why Einstein? Don't you think the term "next Mary Curie" is better?
The next Mary (sic) Curie? Is that what Einstein was?

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CK
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Message 15 of 26 (340441)
08-16-2006 6:43 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by mansouryar
08-15-2006 7:35 PM


Re: How about this one?
Wasn't Irne Joliot-Curie the next Marie Curie?

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