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Author Topic:   The Faith "Great Debate" sedimentation and erosion topic
Jazzns
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Message 1 of 45 (192570)
03-19-2005 5:23 PM


Now that Faith's topic is in the GD I was wondering how to continue. As much as I disagree with Faith in just about everything the debate with Faith is entertaining. Add to this Faith's desire to continue and you have a recipe for good times here at EvC.
My Proposition is that if Faith wants to continue the topic now in the GD she should pick one post to respond to and then give X number of posts that Faith and the respondant will be able to. The number X should be known before hand so that the respondant will know when their last post is so they can make an appropriate exit. Faith will then choose another respondant for Y number of posts as Faith sees fit.
In this way, Faith can talk with everyone and not feel slammed. If at all possible, I would like to go first with regards to my last 2 posts in the topic for something on the order of 3-5 posts at a minimum. At that point Faith can choose someone else. The willing should post here in this topic. Moose has also already expressed interest so we can start the line here with me and moose.
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Message 2 of 45 (192572)
03-19-2005 5:30 PM
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03-19-2005 5:23 PM


Me too!
I'd like a chance now and then.
I agree that faith should control the number of posts he gives to each with an option to add one or two if it is requested.
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Message 3 of 45 (192654)
03-19-2005 9:57 PM
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03-19-2005 5:30 PM


Comment for Faith
You just asked a question of the moose in the sedimentation thread. As of now no one is to post to that thread until you pick them specifically and give them leeway to post a selected number of posts there.
If you haven't been reading this you might have missed that.
I guess we need a protocol with which you can be clear that you are open to posts, who from and how many. I suggest that, when you are ready, you put up an "invite" in the GD forum with the individuals ID in the subtitle.

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Jazzns
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Message 4 of 45 (192799)
03-20-2005 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by NosyNed
03-19-2005 9:57 PM


Re: Comment for Faith
Looks like Jar has jumped in. Can we get some Admin assistance on how we are supposed to proceed?

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Message 5 of 45 (192802)
03-20-2005 1:15 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Jazzns
03-20-2005 12:41 PM


procedure
I simply responded to a direct request from Faith. She responded directly to an earlier post from me and I then tried to answer those specific questions she raised.
I was operating under the impression (certainly possibly the wrong impression) that if she asks someone a specific question or directs a post to a specific person, she was requesting input on that issue from that person. I don't believe (although I'll review the thread and see if I screwed up) that I have responded (as hard as it's been) to anything other than questions specifically directed to me. If I did so, I screwed up.
If my understanding is wrong, I'm sure there will be many that will correct me and I'll certainly abide by any rules or procedures established.
It sure is tough though sitting on your hands to keep from posting. LOL.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 6 of 45 (192816)
03-20-2005 2:35 PM
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03-20-2005 1:15 PM


Re: procedure
I'm confused about what's going in Faith's Deposition and Erosion of Sediments. Since the goal was to make it one-on-one, why will the thread be made open to others? Will this be one at a time? How will people be notified?

--Percy
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Message 7 of 45 (192818)
03-20-2005 2:40 PM
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03-20-2005 2:35 PM


Re: procedure
moi oci.
But I will, as I said, abide by any guidelines created.
I will hold off on any future responses until I recieve direction.Can one of the other Admins respond if FAITH responds to what I've posted so far?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 8 of 45 (192820)
03-20-2005 2:44 PM
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03-20-2005 2:35 PM


Re: procedure
Like I said earlier, I only moved the thread to GD because Faith needed time to make the replies she wanted to. For every post she made 20 more were being made TO her. Moose closed the thread to give her time to compose some posts, I reopened it in GD to give her the time to actually post.
I don't know if the original thread should be left in GD or another GD thread be started. I thought that Faith would pick a few of our members to discuss the issues with.

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Message 9 of 45 (192832)
03-20-2005 3:22 PM


I think the only way to make this work is to have a new "Great Debate" topic, with a limited number of very specificly designated participents form the evo side.
Perhaps Faith would like to choose those participents, and list them in this topic.
If and when the new "GD" topic is started, Faith would specificly address a message to one person, and only that one person would be permitted to reply.
In effect, we could have several "Great Debates" within a single topic.
Adminnemooseus
Added by edit:
AdminAsgara in message 8 writes:
Moose closed the thread to give her time to compose some posts...
I don't think that was really my intentions. I don't even know if I had any intentions. All I knew, was that the topic was a big mess, and it needed a rest. I guess I had hoped that some solution to the mess might be arived at while it was closed. Bottom line - I think it's up to Faith to chose her opponent(s) for a new "GD", be it one or more than one person. - AM
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jar
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Message 10 of 45 (192885)
03-20-2005 8:37 PM


Okay, need guidence.
Faith has responded. What's next? There really isn't much to say, or ANY chance of making any progress. Can I simply hand this off to someone that wants a turn in the barrel?

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Message 11 of 45 (193013)
03-21-2005 9:41 AM


If one of the moderators has a plan for this thread then please become active and let people know what's going on. Otherwise I'll take over moderation of it later today, which I would prefer not to do.

--Percy
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Jazzns
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Message 12 of 45 (193067)
03-21-2005 1:52 PM


Bump for Faith.
I would really like to engage you one on one in a judge free casual setting for a number of posts especially in regard to my most recent post in the GD thread. Please let me know if this is something you want to do.
Thanks

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Message 13 of 45 (193073)
03-21-2005 2:09 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by Admin
03-21-2005 9:41 AM


I closed the GD down.
I still hope that some format can be reached where Faith can participate but it's not likely to be on any scientific subject.
Other Admins are free to override my decision but frankly, I think it is futile.

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Message 14 of 45 (193075)
03-21-2005 2:27 PM
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03-21-2005 2:09 PM


Re: I closed the GD down.
I thought Asgara seemed to have some well thought out views on how to proceed. Maybe she'd like to moderate the GD. I think recent thread closures may lend the impression that we're trying to censor rather than encourage discussion, so I'm going to open the thread again.

--Percy
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Message 15 of 45 (193076)
03-21-2005 2:28 PM
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03-21-2005 2:27 PM


Re: I closed the GD down.
That's fine but can we get some organization and direction for it first?
AbE
I saw it was already reopened so I modified my subject line.
I really think there needs to be some greater and regular guidance on this thread.
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