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Message 1 of 26 (618663)
06-04-2011 7:12 PM


When you find a post that is too good to be missed, nominate it here as one of the June, 2011, Posts of the Month (POTM).

You message subtitle should include the author's name and the topic/thread title.

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Author: Author's Name
Forum: Forum where posted
Thread: Thread title
Message #: Number and Link to the nominated message

Nominations should include a link to the nominated article, and a short comment on why the message deserves nomination.

Note: As always, this is not a thread for debates. Posts should be limited to nomination, seconds, and acceptance statements by nominees.

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AZPaul3
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Message 2 of 26 (618845)
06-06-2011 4:47 PM


NoNukes nukes it.
NoNukes in Message 425 in the Existence thread of Free For All forum.

Complete yet succinct example done in an understandable way.

Home run!

Way to go, NoNukes.

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fearandloathing
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Message 3 of 26 (618847)
06-06-2011 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AZPaul3
06-06-2011 4:47 PM


Re: NoNukes nukes it.
AZPaul3 writes:

NoNukes in Message 425 in the Existence thread of Free For All forum.

Complete yet succinct example done in an understandable way.

Home run!

Way to go, NoNukes.

I will second that, it contains all you need to understand it, even includes all math to prove it, or disprove it if you are so inclined to try and find fault with it.

Throughout the whole topic NN has remained polite and patient, setting a fine example of how a debate or discussion should be handled, JMHO.

Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.


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Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.


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Rahvin
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Message 4 of 26 (618856)
06-06-2011 5:43 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AZPaul3
06-06-2011 4:47 PM


Re: NoNukes nukes it.
AZPaul3 writes:

NoNukes in Message 425 in the Existence thread of Free For All forum.

Complete yet succinct example done in an understandable way.

Home run!

Way to go, NoNukes.

Seconded. Even though ICANT likely won't be affected (by anything, ever...), I found NoNukes' post to be extremely helpful.


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Straggler
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Message 5 of 26 (618858)
06-06-2011 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AZPaul3
06-06-2011 4:47 PM


Re: NoNukes nukes it.
Thirded. I have been following that thread despite having given up actually participating myself.

ICANT is a lost cause. But NoNukes has kept patiently and valiantly presenting the evidence in a manner that even ICANT could possibly grasp if he were willing to even try.

The post in question is the culmination of that endeavour and makes the continuation of that thread valid despite ICANT's nonsense.


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Buzsaw
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Message 6 of 26 (618870)
06-06-2011 6:45 PM


Bolderdash Boldly Blasts Board Bias
Has the bias made this forum essentially irrelevant?
Message 167

This message is one example of cogently formulated messages in this thread airing what discourages creationist participation in the debates on this board.

quote:
I can give you plenty of examples of scientists studying evolution who WANT to find particular conclusions.
That is all you are doing when you pick out some creationist website and try to show that they have an agenda, and then use that to paint every objection to evolution as having an agenda. If PZ Myers makes comments about needing to reaffirm his atheism, does that mean all of science therefore has an agenda?

When Michael Behe says that evolution is wrong, why can't he just be saying that evolution is wrong. When Simon Conway Morris says that evolution is wrong, why can't he just be saying that evolution is wrong. When Michael Denton says its wrong... When a thousand other scientists say it's wrong, why must we look for a motivation for their saying its wrong-unless you are also going to look for a motivation every time a scientists says its right?

If those saying it is wrong are in the minority, so what? That's not very surprising at all. The majority of astronomers looking for alien life believe in alien life. the majority of shark researchers like sharks.

Anyone who is honest knows that the scientific community is an old boy kind of network. Counter theories are not giving the same access to resources as the paradigm. Atheists have also be shown to be very afraid or at least antagonistic towards those of faith, Hitchens, Dawkins, Myers..should I continue?

So you claim intellectual dishonesty, and I also claim intellectual dishonesty on your side. Do you have the moral superiority? Does Wikipedia have the moral superiority when they intentionally censor the truth and bias all information on their site. Do Universities have the moral superiority when they banish scientists with opposing viewpoints? If your side was really honest why wouldn't they encourage classes in school which teach the strengths and weaknesses of evolutionary theory. Why wouldn't they explain more clearly to all students exactly what they know and what they actually don't know about how life operates. What they can show in a lab, and what they actually can only speculate about because they don't have true answers. The more your side fights transparency, the more obvious it is that it is they who are not operating in an honest fashion.

You can get down off your moral high horse, because you were never on it to begin with.



BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.
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Rahvin
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Message 7 of 26 (618871)
06-06-2011 6:55 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Buzsaw
06-06-2011 6:45 PM


Re: Bolderdash Boldly Blasts Board Bias
Vehemently opposed
because Bolder-dash hasn't the slightest clue how the scientific community works as demonstrated perfectly in that post. Rather than deserving accolades, this post deserves scorn for once again putting forth the absolute lie that science is a "good-old-boys club" keeping the upstart opposition down.

Science works through evidence and reproducibility. The highest honors in the scientific field come from proving the existing paradigm to be wrong, not from publishing just another paper that says the same old thing - the precise opposite behavior that Bolder-dash describes.

I know you really want to think that Creation Scientists and others are just being held down by "the man." I know you watched Ben Stein's abomination "Expelled" and nodded to every single word.

But you're wrong. Bolder-dash is wrong. The claims he makes and you support are lies, they are contradictions to easily produced facts, they do not in any way reflect reality outside of your hopelessly misguided minds.

This isn't a PotM. It's just another PRATT.

Edited by AdminModulous, : hidden content. this is meant to be a positive thread, not a place to rebut or editorialise.


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AZPaul3
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Message 8 of 26 (618873)
06-06-2011 7:16 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Buzsaw
06-06-2011 6:45 PM


Bolderdash Badly Beams Board Bullshit
Since I was the target of the post in question I will forgo the opportunity to describe my revulsion to this nomination.

Let me just point out that the quality of the two posts now nominated differ considerably in both intellectual content and effectiveness. Juxtaposing the two shows well the proper debating style and considered presentation of the former, with the self-serving, inane, asinine, scatter shot bullshit of the latter.

Opposed.

Edited by AdminModulous, : content hidden. Let's try and keep this thread positive.


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Panda
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Message 9 of 26 (618876)
06-06-2011 7:46 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Buzsaw
06-06-2011 6:45 PM


Re: Bolderdash Boldly Blasts Board Bias
Opposed.
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NoNukes
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Message 10 of 26 (618880)
06-06-2011 10:14 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by fearandloathing
06-06-2011 5:19 PM


Re: NoNukes nukes it.
fearandloathing writes:

Throughout the whole topic NN has remained polite and patient, setting a fine example of how a debate or discussion should be handled, JMHO.

Thanks for the kind words, and a special thanks to fearandloathing for the pointer to those cool light clock drawings.


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Scienctifictruths
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Message 11 of 26 (618900)
06-07-2011 1:48 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by AZPaul3
06-06-2011 4:47 PM


Re: NoNukes nukes it.
I am for NoNukes post, which was simple and thorough enough for even me to understand.

Edited by Scienctifictruths, : No reason given.


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Message 12 of 26 (618906)
06-07-2011 2:11 AM


Not a place for "opposed" messages
As stated in every recent POTM topic message 1:

Note: As always, this is not a thread for debates. Posts should be limited to nomination, seconds, and acceptance statements by nominees.

No "I'm opposed to that nomination" messages.

Adminnemooseus


Please be familiar with the various topics and other links in the "Essential Links", found in the top of the page menu. Amongst other things, this is where to find where to report various forum problems.
    
Minnemooseus
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Message 13 of 26 (620059)
06-13-2011 11:57 PM


Percy, at "My HUGE problem with creationist thinking"
Author: Percy
Forum: Education and Creation/Evolution
Thread: My HUGE problem with creationist thinking
Message #: 100

At least one other person gave it a "5", prior to me.

As I type this, there are 6 replies to a Mazzy message. Percy's is by far the best of them. Maybe a little snarky, but the snark was done eloquently. The other 5 messages range from OK to pretty crappy.

Moose


Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.

"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham

"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith

"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien

"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose


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Panda
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Message 14 of 26 (620102)
06-14-2011 5:51 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Minnemooseus
06-13-2011 11:57 PM


Re: Percy, at "My HUGE problem with creationist thinking"
Minnemooseus writes:

At least one other person gave it a "5", prior to me.


That was me.

I am not sure if I would second this nomination, though.
But then I am left with the fact that Percy's posts are frequently eloquent and pertinent in equal measure - but this often goes unacknowledged.

I think I'll say "Thirded!", which is then dependant on someone else saying "Seconded!"...


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Jazzns
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Message 15 of 26 (620134)
06-14-2011 9:53 AM


Chuck77 about the geologic column
It is a bit rare when we see a creationist presented with a good argument, and then accept that argument. While not necessarily posts of great ingenuity, Chuck77 is showing a lot of honesty and character that is refreshing in message 236 and 237.


If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be. --Thomas Jefferson
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