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foreveryoung
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Message 1 of 274 (678950)
11-11-2012 7:36 PM


To me, Coulter just responds to the ugly rhetoric of the left by exposing them and accurately calling them what they are. If you don't like the mirror, either don't stand in front of it or simply change your ways. Of course, liberals don't think their rhetoric is hateful. They think they are just describing reality. A case study is right here on the EVC forum. These are the most hateful people i have ever run into in my life. Even when they are trying their best to be polite, they cannot escape the fact that what they believe about conservatives ( they call them reactionaries and they call obama a conservative????) and christian fundamentalists is hateful by nature. Other's don't even try to be polite (Theodoric, Onifre), but they both despise the above categories of people with a vengeance. I think Coulter is only showing these kind of people for exactly who they are. It isn't any wonder then when colleges like Fordham University ban Coulter from speaking at their campuses.
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Message 2 of 274 (678952)
11-11-2012 8:14 PM


Thread Copied from Proposed New Topics Forum
Thread copied here from the Ann Coulter (Is she hateful?) thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.
    
subbie
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Message 3 of 274 (678954)
11-11-2012 8:23 PM
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11-11-2012 7:36 PM


Both sides have been calling each other names since before the beginning of the country. One difference, today, is that the GOP tries to sell itself as being guided by Christian principals.

My question to you is whether you consider the kind of name calling the GOP does to be Christian?


Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung


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Message 4 of 274 (678956)
11-11-2012 8:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by foreveryoung
11-11-2012 7:36 PM


Ann is simply irrelevant
It's true that Ann Coulter is not fit to be in polite company, but she is not significant enough to be considered hateful. She's not significant enough to be considered much of anything for that matter; maybe about like the sophomoric loudmouth that tries to get a reaction by being vulgar but certainly no more significant than that.

But she's smart enough to know where the money is and there's gold to be mined in them their Christian Fundamentalist.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 5 of 274 (678959)
11-11-2012 8:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by foreveryoung
11-11-2012 7:36 PM


I don't know much about Coulter. I don't regularly follow what she says or writes.

There's one school of thought that says she is putting on an act, feeding red meat to the right wing sharks, and then laughing all the way to the bank.

foreveryoung writes:
A case study is right here on the EVC forum. These are the most hateful people i have ever run into in my life.

Perhaps you don't get out much. I have seen far more hateful things said about evolutionists. Read some of the posts by marc9000 and by Cold Foreign Object for examples.

foreveryoung writes:
It isn't any wonder then when colleges like Fordham University ban Coulter from speaking at their campuses.

I don't follow what Fordham does. They probably see her as a rabble rouser and would prefer to keep the campus peaceful. I would guess they would act in the same way about someone they see as a rabble rouser from the political left.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Message 6 of 274 (678960)
11-11-2012 8:35 PM
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11-11-2012 7:36 PM


To me, Coulter just responds to the ugly rhetoric of the left by exposing them and accurately calling them what they are.

Care to present any of this ugly rhetoric? I would hate to accuse you of making unevidence4d assertions but it sure looks like you might be.

I do not think Ann Coulter is hateful. I just think she will say anything for money. If she thought she could make as much money attacking the right she would probably do that. She is a smart woman that knows how to manipulate people, facts and ideas in order to make a buck.

Nice to see you are still resorting to personal attacks. It is kind of sad that you use them in your OP. But if that is all you've got...


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 7 of 274 (678962)
11-11-2012 8:49 PM
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11-11-2012 7:36 PM


To me, Coulter just responds to the ugly rhetoric of the left by exposing them and accurately calling them what they are.

Ann Coulter referred to biology as a fake science because it has the highest participation by women of a scientific field.

Could you explain exactly how that's a reflection of the "ugly rhetoric of the left"? Please be specific.


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Message 8 of 274 (678963)
11-11-2012 8:53 PM


I thought Ann Coulter had disappeared several years ago.

But I don't get out much.


    
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Message 9 of 274 (678964)
11-11-2012 8:54 PM
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11-11-2012 8:35 PM


Fordham
It's funny foreveryoung would mention Fordham, a private University affiliated with the Roman Catholic Society of Jesus and whose President is Rev. Joseph M. McShane, S.J.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 10 of 274 (678965)
11-11-2012 9:03 PM
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11-11-2012 7:36 PM


Coulter not banned
I see reality has no importance for you.

It isn't any wonder then when colleges like Fordham University ban Coulter from speaking at their campuses.

Either you are lying or you are parroting bad information. Again. This is not true.

Late yesterday, Fordham received word that the College Republicans, a student club at the University, has rescinded its lecture invitation to Ann Coulter.

Fordham is not known as a bastion of liberalism, that could be because it is a Jesuit Catholic school.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 11 of 274 (678967)
11-11-2012 9:11 PM
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11-11-2012 9:03 PM


Re: Coulter not banned
Facts? How hateful!
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Message 12 of 274 (678968)
11-11-2012 9:12 PM
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11-11-2012 7:36 PM


Ann Coulter...Ann Coulter...nope, I got nothin': I don't know if she's mean or not.

Wait--is she the lady who calls people retards? Mama Palin must be really ticked off about that.

Ann Whatshername better watch out: Sarah be reloadin'!


"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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foreveryoung
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Message 13 of 274 (678970)
11-11-2012 9:22 PM
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11-11-2012 8:23 PM


subbie writes:

Both sides have been calling each other names since before the beginning of the country. One difference, today, is that the GOP tries to sell itself as being guided by Christian principals.

My question to you is whether you consider the kind of name calling the GOP does to be Christian?

Name calling or not name calling has nothing whatsoever to do with christianity.


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Message 14 of 274 (678971)
11-11-2012 9:27 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by foreveryoung
11-11-2012 9:22 PM


Name calling or not name calling has nothing whatsoever to do with christianity.

I seem to recall something about turning the other cheek and doing unto others as you would have them do unto you.


Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung


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Message 15 of 274 (678973)
11-11-2012 9:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by foreveryoung
11-11-2012 7:36 PM


Pot, kettle.... kettle, Mr. Pot
If this thread is really about Ann Coulter, then let's talk about what she says and does. I don't see any mention of that in your OP.

If instead this is about how we act here, I believe a little introspection is in order.

I have always thought of Coulter as an entertainer whose act I don't particularly care for. On occasion she crosses lines that no civillized person should cross. For example, her attacks on 911 spouses cannot be justified by anything they said. But she says what she says for pure shock value and mostly ignorable.

Are you going to man up regarding that "ban" by Fordham university? I know that is not your style.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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