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07-15-2013 5:24 PM


יהוה
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Hi,
The reason for the O.P. is because the following is important since it might help some to fly away from those judgmental gates of doom known as Septuagint, vulgate, ye holy bible and other things.
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Reversed Vulgate ( paraphrased fragments of scripture ) is the precise opposite of the gates of doom.
The first sign of inerrancy and accuracy of the Reversed Vulgate is the inscription in Roman Language Opere della Legge Vs Opere della Fidelitate.
The title translates The Working of the law Vs Working of Fidelity, meaning by which means or manner you do something rather than that which is done. In Ancient Roman language opere ( working ) is different from opera ( work ). The word Opere is utilized to express the manner through which something is done, whether by the working or operation of law - when the law is that works in you - or by fidelity only - when your action is done out of the heart, spontaneously.
Section in Roman language from La Nuova Diodati
avendo pur nondimeno riconosciuto che l'uomo non giustificato per le opere della legge ...
Having recognized that the man is not justified ( declared righteous ) through the working of the law
The use of the term per le opere della legge ( through the working of law ) indicates the form of action. The justification ( to be declared righteous ) requires an action free from bridle or constraint - proceeding from natural feeling, without external force or influence. If a person does a good work because of his or her אמנה Emunah-fidelity only, it’s not the operation of law that works in him.
However, the term Opere della legge ( operation of the law ) which expresses a form of action had been changed into ‘works of the law’, changing the meaning of the original manuscripts. Now the real message from the original fragments in the words Opere della legge ( working of the law ) is plain to see. The message as originally written clears up that the ends ( to be declared righteous ) do not justify the means when religion and doctrines ( the bridles of law ) do operate in him.
No one will be declared righteous for doing the good works through the working [ Opere or Operation ] of law - when things are done because of a state of subjection and obedience rather than out of the heart.
The message in the original fragment from La Nuova Diodati, by the usage of the term Opere which is different from opera ( work ), does not speak in reference to what works of the Law are still valid or not. The term Opere della legge is utilized in reference to the method of working, mode of action, the manner of functioning or operating. It is not about which works of law must be brought into effect or not. Opere della legge ( Working of law ) implies that all things ought not be done under the bridle of ministration and supervision of human interposers.
Have you ever wondered what has changed in the letters of Paul since today’s scribes, Hebraists and supervisors of the doctrines of the beliefs are no longer stating ‘This man is a pestilent fellow and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world’?
The original message Opere della Legge Vs Opere della fidelitate was changed into the futile debate ‘The works of the law Vs faith/belief’.
The term Opere became a hidden treasury eclipsed in the translations because the original message states that the subjection under the bridle of the supervision of human interposers is not a sign of righteousness.
To the contrary, it is idolatry since the spirits of men in the ministration of a respective doctrine ought not to be worshipped or served as alleged authorities in matters of the spirit. If a living Word who is called Master did wash the feet of those whom the word of יהוה is declared to then it is clear that there is no hierarchy in matters of the spirit. No man pertains to a more elevated degree as if they were more holy, and as if their condition of vulnerability to weakness and sins of the flesh was not like the rest of the congregation of people.
Every human ministration and supervision of doctrine or system of religion is in the same condition of the ministration of things done under the imposition of the Law ( Torah ) by the Levites, scribes and pharisees. It’s the side opposite to the manner and means through which things are done out the heart by fidelity.
All things are possible to him that does them for Fidelity to יהוה
A mixed cup states otherwise,
‘ is possible to him that has fides ( a belief that is credited by the spirit of man )’
Opere della Fidelitate ( working of fidelity ) totally dispenses with the need of any type of human ministration, meddler or interposer between you and יהוה
Now that no man is justified by the [ operation of ] law is clear; For the righteous shall live because of his fidelity [Heb. Emunah] to יהוה
Fidelitate — Ancient Roman Language
Fidelit — Italian
Fidelitas — Medieval Latin
If you have אמנהEmunah-fidelity to יהוה like a mustard seed, you can say to the sycamore-tree, be uprooted and planted in the sea and instantly it will obey you.
The size of the seed determines how long it will remain on the earth without being consumed by the birds. If the size of the fidelity is like of mustard seed then it will not be consumed by the birds. אמנהEmunah ( fidelity ) is related to the duration [ permanence ] of a mustard seed since there is no bird bill that can grab the smallest seed. Even so fidelity is evidence of things not seen - walking not by sight, one does the good works spontaneously and unexpectedly. On this, the subjection under human ministrations of law and doctrines has no place in it.
Fidelity is evidence of things that appear not: that from the invisible word that is heard, visible things might be made, for fidelity is by hearing, and the hearing from the eternal words only. — If one has a fidelity ( that endures and remains ) like a mustard seed then (s)he walks not by sight, doing the good works not in the sight ( or through a system of supervision ) of human interposers, ministers, reverends, pastors, mercenaries of religion and doctrines. The Word אמנהEmunah is present in the New Testament in Hebrew rather than fides.
Be careful that you don't do your good works before ( the supervision of ) men, to be seen ( supervised ) by them. When the good works are done by fidelity alone, they are done spontaneously - it’s not to be done by subjection to restraint or control. By Fidelitate-Emunah all good works are not actions denoting submission under imposition of doctrine or by force of law.
For it is because of [his] אמנהEmunah-fidelity to יהוה that my righteous one shall live, — and if he withdraw himself, he shall not please my soul. But we are not the children of withdrawing unto perdition, but of fidelitate to the permanence of the soul.
Now by אמנהEmunah-fidelitate is [ manifest ] the substance of that [ the word ] which one endures in and the evidence of things that appear not. For by this [ constant fidelity ] the ancients obtained a pleasant testimony. By אמנהEmunah-fidelitate we understand that the world was framed by the word of יהוה — that from invisible things visible things might be made.
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Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : יהוה

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I'm still waiting for you to demonstrate the ability to carry out a lucid dialog in your What is the lowest multiplication rate for Humans ? thread before I risk the waste of my time reviewing any more of your thread proposals. I did read the first several paragraphs of this thread proposal and it looks like nonsense.

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07-20-2013 2:24 PM
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Seconded
The reason for the O.P. is because the following is important ...
I wont go so far as to call it nonsense, but I agree that we need more evidence as to why this information is important.
Shine on, you crazy diamond!

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Message 4 of 5 (703507)
07-23-2013 4:05 PM
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07-20-2013 2:24 PM


More Sign of Accuracy and Inerrancy of the Reversed Vulgate
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Hi AdminPhat,
It's important because it's not possible to deceive anyone without making believe
Also it's impossible for anyone to be deceived without trusting or believing,
The demon would lose his job if he's not allowed to use the method of 'Legion' ( the father of the beliefs and of the camouflages to 'make believe' ).
Some that didn't fly away yet are still believing and making believe that the Septuagint ( ye holy bible ) is perfect,
if many people here are believing that their translation is not very bad revised, which is good for the demon, then there would be a point for us to discuss in this thread.
Have a good job
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Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : יהוה
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : good job!
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update

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Explaining the Reversed Writings
Hi AdminPhat,
I hope all is well.
The Reversed Vulgate writings are paraphrased fragments of scripture which are precisely opposite of the gates of doom known as Septuagint and other things. The following fields might help some to fly away from those judgmental and condemnatory gates of doom. Stay with me a little more time on these pages which show that the reality has been mirrored, reversed to us.
quote:
Samples on reversed writings containing fragments of hidden scripture,
IN THE LIGHT
Parable of the Road — The light is with you in a brief time. Walk on the road in the time you have the light so that darkness doesn't overtake you. He that walks in the obscurity, he believes he is on the road but doesn't know where he's going. In the time you have the light, see the road in the light so that you may become first-fruit of light.
Brief time: Immediate time. . Abbreviated sequence of time.
Dividing of a time; 3,5 — Time in immediate sequence; intermediated.
he believes he is on the road — Synonym: Not seeing the road.
Bible in Basic English — ... one walking in the dark has no knowledge of where he is going.
Vulgate — ... walks in darkness [ in lack of belief ] knows not where he goes.
And If you feel that you can’t go on [ a system of ] just believe
And you know that you can’t go wrong,
In the Light you’ll find the road.
Parable of the Trail — Is there not a half day of daylight? A man may go about a half day without falling because he sees the trail in the light. But if a man goes about in the obscure, believing he is on the trail, he may have a fall because the light is not in the fact that he believes or not.
Half day: . A mediated sequence of time that is a dividing of time.
believing he is on the trail — Synonym: Not seeing the trail.
Bible in Basic English — ...he may have a fall because the light is not in him.
Vulgate — ...because there is no light [ of belief ] in him.
How long will be the overcoming of these wonders?
These wonders will overcome until 1,335. Until a time: Phrimi — 1,000
times: Trmina — 300 and a Dividing time: . Mediata — 3,5
Now that no man is justified by the [ imposition of ] law is clear. For the righteous shall live because of his fidelity ( permanence ) to יהוה
Fidelitate — Ancient Roman Language Fidelit — Italian Fidelitas — Medieval Latin
If you have אמנה Emunah-fidelity to יהוה like a mustard seed, you can say to the sycamore-tree, be uprooted and planted in the sea and instantly it will obey you. The size of the seed implies that it will not be consumed by the birds. If אמנה munah ( fidelity ) is like a mustard seed then it will endure since there is no bird bill that can grab the smallest seed. אמנה munah/fidelity is evidence of things that appear not: that from the invisible word that is heard, visible things might be made. Without the supervision of men; Walking not by sight. Not to be seen by them.
On that day the deaf will hear [ sealed ] words written in the book,
And out of their gloom and darkness the eyes of the blind will see.
- Do you see with your eyes a candle that shines the light that I AM?
- Where is this candle that I might see it?
- It’s seven times before you.
I [ the Word יהוה ] am come into this world like a candle, in order that those who do not see might see, and those who are firm believers in that they are seeing might have no reason to keep on being blind.
Then some believers did ask this question — Are we blind also?
— If hearing and seeing the word are not enough for you to see then is that not being blind twice? And if you admit that you do not see anything when you work up a strong belief then you would start seeing, but because you say: 'Believing, we see!', that is where your blindness increases.
Vulgate - * because ye say: We see; therefore your sin remains.
No one has the word that I AM יהוה from a belief; neither by giving credit the truth *abides in someone.
Vulgate - * And ye have not his word abiding in you: for ye believe not
Who ever quotes the scriptures, ( as it is presented - with very bad revised translations and with very bad corrections ), without *searching first for the truth, in them he thinks he is having eternal life in exchange for giving credit. However they were ( originally ) written in order for them to testify about Me: the word to be known so that a person shall not experiment death.
Vulgate - * Search the scriptures because in them ye think ye have eternal life
They that believe waste their time trying to give credit to the contents in the book, but I ( the Word ) do not receive credit from men. The only thing I have from those who believe is the precaution to beware that they have no truth in them.
Vulgate - * I receive not honour from men. But I know you, that ye have not the love
For when the writing comes with the name that I AM יהוה then those who work up a belief do not receive the words in it. If another version comes with a man’s name then it will have the approval since it will be promising eternal life in exchange for giving credit.
Vulgate - * and ye receive me not; if another shall come in his own name
Can anyone verify for the truth when taking assuredness from him himself instead of the assuredness that comes from the word that I AM יהוה only ?
Vulgate - * How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another,
People who know the truth do not buy the idea that the living Word would be like one that would denounce them and yet keeps silent before what (s)he sees, and consents for not making (her)himself heard. There is a living word in every person that denounces him, in case he chooses to experiment death rather than retain the word of immortality in the beginning of the book of Mosheh ( Moses ).
About the commandment of the eternal life, it is found in the beginning of Genesis ( written by Mosheh ); the immortality in the sense that the Human body does not have necessarily to experiment physical death.
By rejecting the words of the book ( as originally written ) those who believe do sentence themselves to perdition through their beliefs, by firmly believing that death is a certainty and that they were made to die.
Vulgate - * there is one who accuses you, even Moses, in whom ye trust
To believe is accomplishing with the works of Legion ( Heb. Ravb ), the father of the beliefs, since it is not possible to deceive anyone without making believe nor is it possible for one to be deceived without him believing. The dragon was made to be a predator and specialist on camouflages made to make believe.
Vulgate - * Ye are of your father the devil, and the works of your father ye will do. He was a killer from the beginning
When he tells a lie he is acting according to his nature of camouflaging — by not letting one know what the truth is.
*Legion; Ravb; is to be many, having many truths inside. However, the truth is one only. - To Believe is taking as ( if it was ) truth, however, also To Lie is taking as if it was truth: the truth (s)he did not know. If he knew indeed then he would not need to believe.
Vulgate - * When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own
People do not kill except for a reason. However, in Ravb’s point of view it is perfectly natural to kill just to destroy. Even so those who believe have been agreeing with a condemnation without a reason, through the words quoted from doors of doom that they read and perform, when judging that the non-believers are condemned.
When someone works up a strong belief then he is at the same time carrying out the works of the demon the father of the beliefs.
Those who believe do agree with a judgmental speech from their doctrines of faiths, through the quotation of words that they read and interpret when stating that the non-believers are condemned.
( * gates of doom; the books that were made specifically for them that believe, and for who ever comes to identify himself with a condemnatory and judgmental point of view ).
But if those who do not work up a belief are condemned to no salvation, it is *because the help and salvation they look in those doors for,
they ( that believe ) will fall upon!
( * Fragmented field found in The Thomas Gospel )
And why the believers do not believe Me: because I tell you the truth, and the knowledge of truth is not known by belief. For which person, desiring to put up a tower, does not sit down first and count the cost to be certain if he will have enough to make it complete rather than believe? For fear that if he makes a start and is not able to go on with it to the end, all who see it will be laughing at that person, And saying, This person made a start at building, believing he would go on with it, and is not able to make it complete.
Vulgate - * And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
Is there any believer who is able to prove that I’m not telling the truth? And if such believer is not able to prove me wrong, then why he does not believe Me? It is because to believe is only proper when applied to what is demoniac.
Vulgate - * Which of you convince me of sin? And if I say the truth, why ye do not believe me?
Complementary field from The Thomas Gospel ( Paraphrased ) - If those who would lead you say to you: 'Behold the heavenly kingdom is in heaven!' then the birds of heaven will get there first before you. If they say to you: 'It is in the sea!' then the fish will get there first before you. But the heavenly kingdom is within you, and it is without you having to be there first!
א The heaven as you expected ends here. This heaven is unexpected: where it is glittering the separate Word that the eyes did not see, and the hands did not touch.
ב And who ever will not be born again is a darkness and is not able to see the word that I AM יהוה
How can anyone be born again when he is old? Will he reincarnate going into his mother's womb a second time?
גA person becomes born again when escaping from a death that was certain, living beyond the time expected, and by retaining the word of immortality in the beginning of the book; For יהוה formed the Human body physically imperishable [ *without having to experiment death ].
ד The light [ life energy ] emanates of itself. In the one who becomes born again the light is greater than time, thought and realm.
Complementary fields from The Thomas Gospel - Let the man that is getting old not take so long to become like a little infant of seven days, so that he might ask for a place of SHADDAI--and he will live! For there are many first ones that are last ones, and they will become the first and the last as one only!
[ Hebrew, Shaddai; breasts that nourish; breasts that give Life ]
Adam has come to be out of a great power, and a great richness, but he did not become worthy of the word that formed him. For, were he becoming, he would not have experimented death.
Vulgate - * That which is born of the flesh is flesh( has to be born of the water: baptized )
You are not a participant of the kingdom’s family, unless you are baptized by the ceremony of baptism by immersion. However, it is blackmailing, according to the Reversed Vulgate’s point of view: So is it saying that (s)he was not a participant of the kingdom’s family before the baptism ceremony was performed? If (s)he wasn’t, then the blackmailing was necessary.
הYou do not marvel when a person does not have ears to retain truth from hearing and seeing whether the word is consistent or not. And that person becomes a profitable route to the mercenary pastors. And advantages are taken from a circumstance of gloom and uncertainty by those who have a need of giving credit so that they might say that, believing, they are creditors of merit.
ו All that requires a belief being worked up is doubtful. And he that believes takes assuredness from himself; he retains no truth from seeing consistency in the word for there is no truth in him.
ז You do not see the wind but you do not have to believe the wind is blowing because the waves of it come to your ears and you hear the voice of its intensity. And the wind goes where it can freely flow; without man saying how it must blow. That’s how a first-fruit of the word יהוה is brought forth to the light.
How can these things be without the man believing?
ח Being a judge in Yisrael don't you inquire to know and ascertain instead of believing? One speaks what one knows and testifies to what one has eye-witnessed, and yet, in the role of a judge, you do not accept a testimony if you have to believe instead of ascertain.
ט If 'believing' isn’t what you do when a witness is being told trivial current things, then does the Justice that remains for ever not require much less belief if I tell you about things of highest value? No man ascends into heaven unless he has retained in him the one who descends from heaven: The word that I AM יהוה that glitters in heaven.
י And as Mosheh lifted up the serpent suspended to a bronze staff in the wilderness so that anyone who saw it lived, for the same reason a lamb was lifted up, so that everyone who saw the light should remain in the light.
ך For the world so loved the god
to the point of giving a first-born son in sacrifice
so that everyone who believed in that love
should believe also in the god
ל On this a lamb is sent; not that the people need someone to die in their place but that they may see that the lamb's life is taken by the light that glistens My name.
מ Who ever sees the light is not lost any more but anyone that does not see it is still lost; for he does not see that the death has no partake in it. The death does not take the lamb’s life away; it’s delivered into the hands of the light that I AM יהוה
נ You are saved because you do not fight; you do not try to hijack a lamb believing on whether the lamb intercedes for you or not. And this is the perdition of those that believe:
ס The light has come into the world and shines with lightning through the density of clouds, clearing up every uncertainty that in darkness they did not comprehend but they loved the obscurity of beliefs and faiths rather than seeing the light.
ע For everyone who finds comfort from working up a belief does not search for the true words that I AM, neither comes to the light.
ף He rather takes the word from a distorted variation that was camouflaged to make believe. For in the light there is no circumstance of gloom and uncertainty that you need to believe.
Complementary field from The Thomas Gospel ( Paraphrased ) - This is where you will know you see the One that has begotten you: When you look upon her who is not begotten out of woman, you will be prostrating yourself on your face!
Veritat Splendor
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Bm C
C Em
There's no darkness from verifying and knowing
G D/A
In the light there's no gloom that you need to believe
C Em
No h trevas em constatar e saber
G D/A
No tem na luz a escurido pra que precise crer
C Em
To believe is taking as truth
Crer ter como verdade
G D/A
It’s not knowing, that is why it takes that you believe more firmly
No saber, por isto requer acreditar com mais veemncia
Em G D/A
Whom even not on purpose are you lying to
E pra quem mesmo sem querer ests a mentir
Em G
When you say taking ‘as truth’: as if it was the truth
Quando diz ter ‘como verdade’: como fosse a verdade
C G
the truth you did not know ?
a verdade que no conheceu ?
D C Bm
Only to you, only to you, only to you
S pra voc, s a voc, s a voc
Bm C
C Em G D/A
Giving credit is the warrantee
Dar crdito a garantia
Em G D/A
That comes from who ever believes and guarantees
Que vem de quem acredita e garante
Em G C G
That it’s a merit and a salvation credit accountable for your thought
Que mrito, e o crdito se deve ao teu pensamento
D C Bm
Only for you only to you only to you
S a voc, s a voc, s a voc
Bm C G G A G D
But you sooner or late will understand
Voc cedo ou tarde vai entender
Am Em G A G D
That the truth will be with you for ever by your side
Que ela estar sempre ao teu lado
Am G G G A G D
The light of truth is much greater than any of your thoughts
A verdade que maior do que o pensamento
Em E E F# G D
How many more times you deceived yourself
Quanto tempo voc se enganou
Am A A B C G/B D
I’m the moment the beginning I Am
O momento e o incio Eu Sou
D C/G Em G D/A
In the light of splendor of the truth they will not want to listen
Na luz do resplendor da verdade que no vo querer ouvir
C Em G D
From the truth the beliefs get away and they don’t want to see:
Diante dela as crenas fogem e no querem ver:
Am
Where the light clears up
Onde a luz clareia
C G D
there’s nothing uncertain that you need to believe
no h incerteza pra que precise crer
C/G Em G D/A
Whom they’re lying to? The lamb does not depend on collecting money
E pra quem mentem? O cordeiro no depende de arrecadar dinheiro
C Em
That is taken away from the poor This is why camouflages are made: Que tirado pra longe dos pobres As camuflagens so feitas:
G C G
Without making believe it’s impossible to deceive
Porque sem fazer crer impossvel enganar algum
D C
So that everyone who so ever believes
Para que todo aquele todo aquele que crer
Bm
should see just what he wants to see
possa ver s o que queira ver
Em D/A Am Em Am G Am G C Am G C
To trust or believe is giving credit in or to something which may or may not be truth. When referring to I AM, one shouldn't be using for the Most High a word that is proper to use for the things that may or may not be truth. When we say we trust someone, it often means that we always know there's a possibility that we'll be cheated or lied to but we trust this person not to do so anyway.
The word ‘trust’ shouldn't be used for the Eternal. We often say, I trust you, to someone and mean that we acknowledge there is a possibility that the person is lying or will betray us but we believe they won't. There is no possibility that the Eternal will lie or cheat, so ‘trust’ has no place in it.
Whether asking this question, ‘do you believe in the Word?’ or ‘Is the living Word to be believed ( or credited as true )?’, there’s no difference in that because in both cases the credibility is being questioned by the use of a term that is not proper for one to use when referring to I AM the Truth - since the word believe is only proper when applied for the things that may or may not be true.
To apply belief ( to the living word ) is taking the word as something unclear, like a word in the gloom that is not able to be self-evident and shine in darkness. Or like something without power, a word that would be dependant on being believed by the man so that she could be able to make herself plain, seen and known.
Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update

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