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Author Topic:   Religions are fairy tales for adults. Should we encourage them to grow up?
Greatest I am
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08-04-2015 11:31 AM


Religions are fairy tales for adults. Should we encourage them to grow up?

My mind set is close to Daniel Dennett as far as what religious people / theist should become after they grow up.

Personally, I like a lot of the social functions and appeasement of our need for fellowship, hivishness and tribalism offered by religious institutions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5tGpMcFF7U

So I do not want to kill all religions but just encourage them to be more moral, tolerant and give equality to women and gays.

Having said the above, People and recent trends to read scriptures literally have cause many to forget that religions were invented as theatre and myth and were never meant to be read or taken literally. They were designed to seek God, not to find one.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html

Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

Please listen as to what is said about literal reading.

"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

As you can see from the following, religions and temples have always been about entertainment and fellowship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7BHvN6rZZA

If Christianity and Islam could return to the old way of seeking God instead of idol worshiping false Gods, perhaps jihadists and other fundamental believers might chill and get along the way they have at some points in our past history.

Religions are fairy tales for adults. If this is a truth, we should encourage Christianity and Islam as well as all other religions to grow up and return to their better past of seeking God instead of idol worshiping Yahweh and Allah. Both of them are mythical and manmade Gods.

Regards
DL


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08-16-2015 2:01 AM
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08-04-2015 11:31 AM


Positive Truth Claim
GIA writes:

Religions are fairy tales for adults. If this is a truth, we should encourage Christianity and Islam as well as all other religions to grow up and return to their better past of seeking God instead of idol worshiping Yahweh and Allah. Both of them are mythical and manmade Gods.

This belief needs to be supported. You are stating Dennetts (and others) philosophy as if it is truth. Please support the assertion.
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08-17-2015 8:54 AM
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Re: Positive Truth Claim
The Origen quote does that and if you think talking animals are not mythical and imaginary then you have a problem.

What you want come when dealing with objections. Not in the main body of a O.P.

Post the O.P. or not but it stays as is.

Regards
DL


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08-17-2015 7:07 PM
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Re: Positive Truth Claim
I mean't no disrespect, but will stand my ground on challenging you for two reasons.

First, we are in a Faith & Belief topic. A member can start a topic about pink unicorns, for all I care...as long as they state that it is a belief and not a fact. the same rules apply to atheists and gnostics.

The second reason i hesitate to promote your topic is because all of your topics are essentially the same thing.

I suppose I'm asking you what you expect your readers to do? What sort of argument do you intend to make--in a Faith/belief context?


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