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Percy
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Message 1 of 163 (768477)
09-10-2015 7:59 AM


Everyone will greatly enjoy this well written article: 6 Tiny Cavers, 15 Odd Skeletons, and 1 Amazing New Species of Ancient Human.

Here's a link to the technical paper: Homo naledi, a new species of the genus Homo from the Dinaledi Chamber, South Africa

--Percy

Edited by Percy, : Fix link. Thanks, jar.


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jar
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Message 2 of 163 (768478)
09-10-2015 8:41 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
09-10-2015 7:59 AM


second link doesn't.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 3 of 163 (768479)
09-10-2015 10:58 AM
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09-10-2015 7:59 AM


Oh, just great. Two more sets of missing transitionals.
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Message 4 of 163 (768480)
09-10-2015 11:04 AM
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The credulousness of atheists is breathtaking.
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Message 5 of 163 (768481)
09-10-2015 11:19 AM
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09-10-2015 11:04 AM


What are those skeletons, Faith? Crossbreed dwarf Nephelim? Fakes placed by Satan to deceive the faithful?

I think I know who is credulous.


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Message 6 of 163 (768482)
09-10-2015 11:23 AM
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09-10-2015 11:19 AM


They're either human or they're not, and if they're human they are human, they are not "transitionals" but simply humans.
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Message 7 of 163 (768483)
09-10-2015 11:26 AM
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09-10-2015 11:23 AM


They're either human or they're not, and if they're human they are human, they are not "transitionals" but simply humans.

Does this look human to you?


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Faith
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Message 8 of 163 (768484)
09-10-2015 11:30 AM
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09-10-2015 11:26 AM


Artist renderings are untrustworthy. Beside which, as I said, if it's human it's human, but I don't trust whoever decides that anyway.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Message 9 of 163 (768485)
09-10-2015 11:57 AM
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09-10-2015 11:23 AM


They're either human or they're not, and if they're human they are human, they are not "transitionals" but simply humans.

And the great thing about creationism is that you can say that before you've studied their anatomy. The actual facts about the bones don't matter.


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Message 10 of 163 (768486)
09-10-2015 12:05 PM
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09-10-2015 11:04 AM


The credulousness of atheists is breathtaking.

Well, yes. I admit that. We only have fossils that we can see and measure and touch, and we build on that? C'mon.

Whereas you have a story about a talking snake that is documented in actual paintings. Artists don't lie.


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Message 11 of 163 (768487)
09-10-2015 12:05 PM
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09-10-2015 7:59 AM


Everyone will greatly enjoy this well written article: 6 Tiny Cavers, 15 Odd Skeletons, and 1 Amazing New Species of Ancient Human.

What a great story! An incredible find.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Tanypteryx
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Message 12 of 163 (768488)
09-10-2015 12:16 PM
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09-10-2015 11:23 AM


Prpfessor Faith writes:

They're either human or they're not, and if they're human they are human, they are not "transitionals" but simply humans.

What's that? Your voice is being drowned out by the roar of atheist science happening.

"Oh God, pride of Man, broken in the dust again" - Quicksilver Messanger Service


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 13 of 163 (768489)
09-10-2015 12:43 PM
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09-10-2015 11:30 AM


Faith writes:

Artist renderings are untrustworthy. Beside which, as I said, if it's human it's human, but I don't trust whoever decides that anyway.

If you could apply your native skepticism to your own beliefs, you would have a remarkable mind.


"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."

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Message 14 of 163 (768490)
09-10-2015 2:04 PM
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09-10-2015 12:43 PM


If you could apply your native skepticism to your own beliefs, you would have a remarkable mind.

Or, if she could apply her native skepticism to her own beliefs, she would be remarkably crazy.

Her "skepticism" is such that if consistently applied, she wouldn't believe anything. That would be bad skepticism done wrong. She saves herself from this by applying her "skepticism" selectively, only to deny the conclusions of scientists when it suits her, and not so as to apply to her daily needs. If she did extend her principles to how she lives her life, she would, sure, be agnostic. On the other hand she wouldn't know how to tie her shoelaces.


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Message 15 of 163 (768491)
09-10-2015 2:20 PM
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09-10-2015 11:26 AM


Does this look human to you?

Have to actually agree with Faith here* - argument by artist's impression is a dead end. After all, this doesn't look particularly human:

This one, on the other hand, wouldn't look too out of place if I saw him on the metro:

They are, of course, reconstructions of the same fossil (La Chapelle-aux-Saints 1), separated from one another by a century of cultural baggage and scientific study.

*about this specific post, not about the new fossils.

Edited by caffeine, : No reason given.


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