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DeliverUsFromEvolution
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Message 1 of 55 (810323)
05-27-2017 10:28 PM


{Added by edit by Adminnemooseus: As of August 5, 2017, the book is available at evcforum.net at http://www.evcforum.net/...opsite/DeliverUsFromEvolution.pdf}

Hello brothers and sisters! I have recently released a book through Sehnsucht Publishing entitled: Deliver Us From Evolution?: A Christian Biologist's In-Depth Look at the Evidence Reveals a Surprising Harmony Between Science and God

I am giving the ebook away for free until Tuesday, since this is my ministry and I want to get his book into as many hands as possible! I honestly believe that no matter what your views are on evolution and creation, that this book will simultaneously challenge and edify you. Regardless of your views on this issue, please give this book a fair chance. Feelings run very strong on this topic, but I think a great hallmark of the Christian faith is intellectual honesty, academic rigor, and a willingness to openly and candidly assess the evidence. No matter who you are, I think the book will surprise you in a good way. I am a sincere brother who has a burning passion to share the message of reconciliation between God's revealed Word and His revealed working in the world. Here is the description below:

Is evolution an enemy to faith? Can God, Scripture, and science be reconciled? What evidence is there for evolution? Is it true? In this tour de force of scientific rigor and biblical insight, biologist Aaron Yilmaz examines the Creation vs. Evolution controversy from a scientific and biblical perspective, undergirded with psychological and philosophical understanding. With over 600 citations from peer-reviewed scientific journals, books, and university literature, he objectively and exhaustively investigates the evidence for not only an ancient earth but for the reality of evolution. With humility, humor, and wit, Yilmaz presents a surprising harmony between science and God, far more satisfying than Creationism or Intelligent Design. This fast-paced and engaging book powerfully demonstrates how science and faith, when properly understood, do not conflict and on the contrary lead to a deeper appreciation of God and a more intellectually fulfilling and spiritually rewarding life. Aaron R. Yilmaz holds an M.S. in Biology from the University of Saint Joseph, West Hartford, Connecticut (2015), and a B.S. in Biology with departmental honors from Oakland University, Rochester, Michigan (2013). He has formally studied evolution at both the undergraduate and graduate levels, performed research leading to peer-reviewed published scientific literature, and has taught biology at the college level.

Please take a look at the book and let me know what you guys think! I would love to hear some feedback!

Here is the link: https://www.amazon.com/...dp/B071CXGXM2/ref=sr_1_1_twi_kin_2

Sincerely,

- Aaron R. Yilmaz

Edited by DeliverUsFromEvolution, : corrected link

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Changed topic title from "Free Kindle Book 5/25-5/30. Deliver Us From Evolution?: A Christian Biologist's In-De" to "Deliver Us From Evolution?: A Christian Biologist's In-Depth Look at the Evidence Reveals a Surprising Harmony Between Science and God" (or at least as much as will fit).

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Add link to evcforum.net book storage location (top of message in red).


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nwr
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Message 2 of 55 (810327)
05-27-2017 11:39 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by DeliverUsFromEvolution
05-27-2017 10:28 PM


I "purchased" the book.

Then I tried to read it. And I got the message that it is not compatible with my device.

Oh, well. It seems that I can read it on my computer, as long as I boot to Windows. So I'll look at it there. But it would have been more convenient on my kindle device.

I've only had a quick scan thus far. The book is probably a bit preachy for my taste. But we shall see as I try to read it.

Your view of the relation of science and Christianity seems to be similar to the view that I held, before I gave up on religion. So I'm unlikely to have any serious disagreement with that.

And a side comment:

You sign up for membership at evcforum. And then the first thing that you do is post an advertisement for your own product. I think that's technically called "spam". However, I hope that your post is allowed to stay, because your book topic is related to the forum discussions.


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Message 3 of 55 (810339)
05-28-2017 6:55 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by DeliverUsFromEvolution
05-27-2017 10:28 PM


welcome
Welcome to the fray, DeliverUsFromEvolution.

... Can God, Scripture, and science be reconciled? ...

If you can't reconcile your beliefs with reality then you are living in fantasy. If you maintain beliefs that are contradicted by objective empirical evidence, ie -- reality -- then you are living in delusion.

... he objectively and exhaustively investigates the evidence for not only an ancient earth ...

So how old do you think the earth is?

... but for the reality of evolution. ...

And that reality is?

Please take a look at the book and let me know what you guys think! I would love to hear some feedback!

One of the 'rules' of this forum is that we don't debate by links, but by taking the best argument from them and posting why you think they are valid, using the links for substantiation.

For instance I could say read The Age of the Earth (version 3 no 1) on the age of the earth, and Introduction to Evolution on evolution and post your critique here (you can't reply to those threads yet) -- would that be fair to you?

Aaron R. Yilmaz

Am I correct in thinking this is you?

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Message 4 of 55 (810343)
05-28-2017 8:57 AM
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05-27-2017 11:39 PM


Are you familiar with calibre? If the ebook doesn't have DRM, then you can use calibre to convert it to mobi, which will work on your kindle. (If it does have DRM, then there are ways to get around that.)

That's provided you are willing to install software that you may end up not using all that much. And provided the ebook is in a format calibre can handle.


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Message 5 of 55 (810345)
05-28-2017 9:04 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by DeliverUsFromEvolution
05-27-2017 10:28 PM


Please take a look at the book and let me know what you guys think! I would love to hear some feedback!

I can't get the book for free because I don't have an Amazon device like a Kindle or Fire.

Are you willing to discuss your ideas here?

I'm curious about your approach: Did you start from the position of attempting to harmonize science and God, or did you start with a question and then arrive there?

Is that you with the beard and owl?


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nwr
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Message 6 of 55 (810354)
05-28-2017 9:51 AM
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05-28-2017 8:57 AM


Are you familiar with calibre?

Yes. I have that installed on my linux (opensuse) desktop.

But I assume the book uses DRM.

I'm just a bit surprised that my kindle can't handle it, but the windows kindle software can. I'm not sure why. My first thought was that maybe there are many colored images that a black&white interface can't handle. But I am not seeing any images or fancy graphics.

I'm now guessing that the author prepared the book in a non-standard way, and Amazon doesn't think it worth the trouble to convert.


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Message 7 of 55 (810355)
05-28-2017 9:54 AM
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05-28-2017 9:04 AM


I can't get the book for free because I don't have an Amazon device like a Kindle or Fire.

I can't read it on my kindle. I can read it with the free kindle software for Windows.

I assume that a kindle fire can read it. And apparently the kindle app on my smart phone can read it (that's where Amazon wanted me to read it when I "Purchased" it). But I haven't tried that.


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Message 8 of 55 (810357)
05-28-2017 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by DeliverUsFromEvolution
05-27-2017 10:28 PM


Bro...your introduction for your book was good...!!

But if you can not respond and answer questions HERE, then Yes it would appear you are only after sales for your book, rather than 'getting out the information.

That would be rather sad, and hardly beneficial to anyone.

For sadly church people and church leaders write for mopney in most cases rather than writing to get out the message.

The Lord will provide, if you just give away your bread free ...cast it on the waters and it shall return to you....

Dont worry about the evolutionists HERE, they aren't that bright or informed, and the more you are able to stump them the more READERS would want to read your book....

Id give you my honest Christian and scientific feedback on your excerpts or responses HEREIN, so go for it ..... love to hear from ya.

Dont sign up for funding and then run, running is what evolutionists do, not what creationists do.

Thanks Aaron


Evolutionists are brainless whoosies, gutless and cowards.
They are not scientists, but religionists that choose to deny facts and truths of science. Intelligence and design always defeats their lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is a losers doctrine, simply because they are either lazy or dishonest.

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Message 9 of 55 (810358)
05-28-2017 10:00 AM
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05-27-2017 11:39 PM


Your view of the relation of science and Christianity seems to be similar to the view that I held, before I gave up on religion. So I'm unlikely to have any serious disagreement with that.

I'll have to take that back.

You make a big todo about "God is truth". I always took "God is truth" to be a metaphor. So I guess that's a disagreement. Frankly, taking "God is truth" to be other than a metaphor is just nonsense.

By the way -- if you want to get into a discussion of the contents of the book, you should start a new thread for that. My understanding is that "The Book Nook" is for general comments and reviews about a book, but not for debating the content of the book.


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Message 10 of 55 (810376)
05-28-2017 7:10 PM
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05-27-2017 10:28 PM


As a Christian, why would I want to be delivered from evolution?

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Message 11 of 55 (810415)
05-29-2017 10:52 AM
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05-28-2017 7:10 PM


Mystery solved
Because evolution is a GREAT LIE, and has no values except luck and chance, and is a dishonor to the Lord...for as He said, Give honor to whom honor is due.

Evolution created nothing, Jesus created everything.

Simple, mystery solved.


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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Message 12 of 55 (810416)
05-29-2017 10:54 AM
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Re: Buck Up Aaron... respond
Buck up Aaron, and respond.

Theres some freedom HERE before you get censored and banned, so come on write and respond and defend your book, that you say you are not trying to make money on.

Be faithful and brave rather than posting and running.

(Ill write you a personal email on this) as I think its deplorable that you advertise, without explanation.

I always explain, it helps cement values and ideas and laws.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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Message 13 of 55 (810422)
05-29-2017 11:15 AM
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05-29-2017 10:52 AM


Re: Mystery solved
Sorry but you offer nothing of value in response to my question.

Davidjay writes:

Because evolution is a GREAT LIE, and has no values except luck and chance, and is a dishonor to the Lord...for as He said, Give honor to whom honor is due.

Yet another of your worthless unsupported assertions.

Evolution is a fact, the God you created and try to market is what has no value. Nor do luck or chance have anything to do with either the fact of evolution or the Theory of Evolution.

Davidjay writes:

Evolution created nothing, Jesus created everything.

And yet another totally unsupported assertion.


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Message 14 of 55 (810491)
05-30-2017 10:42 AM
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05-29-2017 11:15 AM


Re: Evolution did not create life FACT
Jar..allow me to suggest, that all evolutionist and evolution itself apparently agrees that evolution did not create life.... Percy and I agreed on this....

""I agree, we have one of our first agreements... Evolution did not creat life and did not create laws that govern life and non life. (therefore me having this inside my signature, gives us more common ground, and we can apparrently all accept this as a fact. Great... We have agreement)
We differ on evolution diversifying life, but I shall try studiying up on this new concept you mentioned about it, not creating new and different species from an original species or KIND.

''

.
http://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?control=page&t=19460&mpp=1...
So my claim is surely upheld in these courts and on this evolution board...

Its a proven and accepted FACT now that evolution did not creat life.

And similiarly when evolution did not creat life, you can only suggest that evolution diversified life, that already existed... and again does not creat life.... or new life

But then again, your theory gets rather elusive as you sometimes state it creates new species and other times state that it does not create new species from old species.

As for the claim about 'Jesus created everything' that is for you to prove personnally. I cant cross that bridge for you, only direct you to the bridge of life and discernment.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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Message 15 of 55 (810498)
05-30-2017 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by DeliverUsFromEvolution
05-27-2017 10:28 PM


Aaron, dont run ... write and reply
Aaron, you really should not come HERE in my opinion and promote your book for money without at least trying to answer some questions.

Running and hiding is what the opposition does so well, so dont be a whoosie....

(PS I am *********** to say this to you, because you are a **********, and there is ** language rule HERE, if spoken ******* creationists).

So come on Aaron, as a writer, you should know your facts and as an author should be able to express yourself.

I will objectively back you up if your writing is correct or appropriate and try to keep the comments against you objective rather than ***********.

Just have some courage and reply. Dont run.... they aren;t that bright in science and need lots of correction.... their language gets a little over the top, but they are harmless in a discussion board, and their comments can easily be discerned by READERS.

Hoping to hear from you BRO...

IHS

David


Evolution is not science. It did not create life nor did it diversify life. It didn;t create the laws that exist nor did it create science. It is a religion and not Science.

Intelligent design always defeats evolutions lack of design and lack of intelligence. Luck and Chance is not a scientific doctrine,


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