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jar
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12-19-2017 6:33 AM


I finally changed both my phone and the carrier, and hope things might become better. It's still just the first day but so far the folk haven't really pissed me off and that's a surprise and a comfort.

There were several issue that lead to this; primarily apathy of the personnel at my old carrier but also just constant little annoyances. One month for some yet unexplained reason the bill was a penny more than usual and I failed to notice the difference and just sent a check for the normal amount. Then I started getting past due notices so tried to pay the penny but they have a policy of not allowing online or credit card payment of less than a dollar.

Yossarian would understand.

Now I use my cell phone for some really strange things it seems, I make calls. I don't watch videos on the phone, listen to music on the phone, surf the web from my phone, take pictures with my phone, just calls and texts.

Unfortunately I also had a really really really really bad vertigo attack last week that left me lying on the bathroom floor and so sick there was no way I was going to get to my phone even if it was necessary. I do wear, and have always worn a watch, so the new Dick Tracy Two-Way Radio Wrist Watches definitely looked like the solution for a very real problem.

I headed in to the carriers office to find a person near the door playing a game on his phone who gave the very definite impression that I was intruding unreasonably into his life. I explained that I got an email saying I was eligible for an upgrade so I'd like to add one of the new watches.

He said I would need a second line and they no longer had the almost no data option line like the one I currently have and I'd need to upgrade my current line and add a second line. Oh, and he'd need a $75.00 deposit plus taxes up front but could then order the watch. Oh, and that my current phone was a Microsoft Phone so it would not work with the watch.

Once there was a little boy
who order a Captain Midnight Glow in the Dark Secret Decoder Ring.
Each day he would wait patiently for the mail to come;
yet day after day, no box arrived.

He was a good boy
and always said his prayers
but finally "There is no God"
sprang from his lips.

He went to bed,
hiding beneath his covers
lest God should strike him dead
during the night.

But the box came
and the ring
glowed green
in the night.

So I didn't go quite that far but I did go to another carrier with an office pretty close to where I live. And they had the watch, and a phone that would work with the watch, and a plan for Old Farts, and could port both phone and watch to my old number and they had them in stock and the total monthly cost was only about ten dollars more than the single line with the old carrier.

And the watch too glows in the night.

Edited by jar, : fix sub-title


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Message 2 of 24 (825898)
12-19-2017 8:31 AM
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12-19-2017 6:33 AM


changes changes changes
I finally changed both my phone and the carrier, and hope things might become better. It's still just the first day but so far the folk haven't really pissed me off and that's a surprise and a comfort.

We are getting ready to change our internet, tv, and phone service, because poor service at high cost.

Yossarian would understand.

Yeah, there is always a catch.

I am exploring options, and welcome any suggestions.

For the phone I bought a "Simple" chip to replace the Verizon chip in one of my phones. It costs $30/mo for the same services I use on Verizon on my other phone but pay more for. It uses Sprint network, but I have not run into any coverage issues. Yet. It purports to have service already and waiting to use in Canada, while we had to pay extra to extend our Verizon phone coverage when we went. I think I can call Canada without extra charge but have not tried it.

For TV we usually watch the PBS stations. I also have an antennae that can get me local stations. The PBS stations have started having "Passport" membership for your donation package, so you can access their programs on the internet.

That leaves internet access.

One option is to use the phone and

Another is Hughes Satellite.

I am also in a working group that is looking into setting up a community internet service for the town, which would provide free wi-fi downtown. A non-profit cooperative. Now if we had a Milo Mindbender ...

Thoughts?

Edited by RAZD, : .


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jar
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Message 3 of 24 (825901)
12-19-2017 9:18 AM
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12-19-2017 8:31 AM


Re: changes changes changes
I have a cable connection for internet and TV right now. So far the new phone and watch are doing what they should.

Antennas don't do well down here simple because each station is very far apart and in different directions.


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Message 4 of 24 (825979)
12-20-2017 11:16 AM
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12-19-2017 6:33 AM


and that my current phone was a Microsoft Phone so it would not work with the watch.

Bill Gates told me he had sold one of those things, but I could not imagine who bought it.


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Message 5 of 24 (825981)
12-20-2017 11:28 AM
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12-20-2017 11:16 AM


I really like the Windows Phone system.

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Message 6 of 24 (825993)
12-20-2017 1:13 PM
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Speaking of weird things with phones. I moved to a new location the first of November and had to get a new phone number for my landline. At the old apartment I had ATT's U Verse which runs the phone through the internet, and wanted to consider something different since I never did like the fact that when the power goes out so does my phone. But I ran into so many problems I decided it's best to let sleeping dogs lie as it were and get whatever is the least hassle.

At the new place at first I had no phone or internet, and my only connection to the world was the public computer room half a football field from my apartment, which isn't an easy walk with my arthritis which requires using a walker. I tried and tried to roust anyone at ATT on the computer and got nowhere. Finally I got a message that said there is no ATT service at my new address, even that there is no such address. I had to give up the quest from sheer tiredness.

I emailed my brother and he called them from his phone and they wouldn't tell him anything because they had to speak to me personally.

When he came over a few days later he called from my place and I got to talk to them. After the usual frustration of being transferred from one ATT office to another I was told that there is no ATT service at my apartment, actually that there is no such apartment, they were quite sure of that, but that I could at least cancel my former service, so they transferred me to the Cancellation Department which immediately broke the connection.

I called back and my brother had to do all the numbers punching because I don't see very well any more, and they cancelled the old service. But I still didn't have new service which they'd told me isn't available at this address. In fact my address apparently exists only in the Twilight Zone.

But when we told the building manager about this she said that's ridiculous, this building is served exclusively by ATT. My brother found this out when he was leaving the building so I was once again without connection to the world including to him until he was able to return.

He couldn't come back for a while but a friend showed up and she called ATT for me on her phone. She talked to a nice guy for about an hour as he tried to sort out the mystery of the nonexistence of my apartment according to their records. He finally said he'd have to get back to her after the weekend. Yeah, too bad it was a Friday. She had to go back to her place which is a long way away. So I had another few days without connection to the world, unless I did the painful trek to the public computer room. Which of course I did though a run-through of the links at ATT was as usual futile, probably due partly to my bad eyes and the fact that the older I get the harder it is to negotiate the constantly "improving" technologies.

Perhaps needless to say the nice guy at ATT did NOT contact my friend and of course I didn't know that until I went to the computer room again and found her email.

All this confusion took about two weeks by the way. Finally my brother called again on his phone and told them off and they promised to get me the most basic of phone services installed as a sort of compromise just so I would have something. They gave him a phone number. On the scheduled day they apparently flipped a switch at ATT and my phone started working. I gave the number to my email list. Hooray.

But it turned out to be an internal ATT number and I started getting phone calls from ATT workers trying to reach headquarters, which at first I just thought were wrong numbers.

But now I was at least able to use my own phone to call ATT. I got a nice guy in Springfield Missouri who wanted to chat about how such a dry state as Nevada gets its water, and like most people who have never been to Nevada he was picturing hot and dry Las Vegas not cold and dry Northern Nevada where we get snow. Do we collect rain water? I was kind of flummoxed, never heard of collecting rain water and got confused to the point that I forgot we probably don't even get enough rain water to bother collecting it, and that our water comes from the Sierra Snow Pack melt that fills the reservoirs in the Spring.

Not that I minded the diversion, it was entertaining. And he did more or less sort things out for me. Scheduled an ATT installation appointment to get my U Verse up and running so I could also have my internet again, told me it could take as long as four hours and they'd charge me a lot for the installation. That precipitated more "entertaining" conversation but at least I had enough of my wits together to write down every code. phone number and confirmation number he gave me along with his name and employee number.

The day came for the installation and it took all of twenty minutes, though I'm sure I'll still be charged for four hours. But now I had a new phone number so I had to notify the email list of the change.

It's still not clear why my apartment showed up in the Twilight Zone but I assume it's now manifested on Planet Earth at least for the time being.

BUT.

Now I had two phone numbers, two separate phone accounts since they didn't close out the earlier one that was an internal ATT number. So I had to make another call to ATT, another stressful long call, and all but one of those numbers I had managed to write down turned out not to be the answer to any of the questions they asked me, so it took a long time getting through the whole thing but in the end as far as I know all is well. Except that the stress must have drastically shortened my life expectancy.

Edited by Faith, : many small changes for clarity


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Message 7 of 24 (826018)
12-20-2017 4:21 PM


My cell phone was getting old. And the carrier sucks. So we went for new phones with a new carrier.

The new phone is good. The new carrier sucks, but in different ways than the old carrier sucked. Maybe all carriers suck.


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Message 8 of 24 (826062)
12-21-2017 11:13 AM


I recently had to get a new phone because they shut down the old analog network. I kept the same carrier, the same account, the same number and the same plan. I pay $8 a month. My new phone is "SIM-unlocked", which means I can pull the SIM card and go to a different carrier any time I want. I don't plan to do that but it's nice to know I can if I want to.

I keep track of my work hours on my phone. I have a shopping list on my phone but I never remember to put anything on it. I read books on my phone.

I still don't know what Instagram is.


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Message 9 of 24 (826064)
12-21-2017 11:24 AM
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I still don't know what Instagram is.

It's a really fast drug delivery service.


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Message 10 of 24 (826065)
12-21-2017 11:35 AM
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New Cat's Eye writes:

It's a really fast drug delivery service.


I was pretty sure it was something I didn't need.
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Message 11 of 24 (826191)
12-24-2017 3:23 PM
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12-20-2017 4:21 PM


... The new carrier sucks, but in different ways than the old carrier sucked. ...

Well you basically get three options, verizon, sprint and att&t --- it seems all the "lesser" brands use one or the other.

None in US as good as Europe.

Enjoy


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Message 12 of 24 (826192)
12-24-2017 4:19 PM
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12-24-2017 3:23 PM


Well you basically get three options, verizon, sprint and att&t --- it seems all the "lesser" brands use one or the other.

While that is true, the primary issue with your phone service provider is the people and policies associated with your provider and not the physical stuff.


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Message 13 of 24 (826199)
12-25-2017 9:51 AM
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12-24-2017 4:19 PM


While that is true, the primary issue with your phone service provider is the people and policies associated with your provider and not the physical stuff.

It is nice to be able to walk into a store and deal with issues and upgrades. Doing it over the phone is generally a waste of time until you get to the person you need to talk to.

But that's just phones and technology, repairs to towers and repeaters is not their responsibility.

So can the owners of the towers etc slow down other service providers using their towers?

Enjoy


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Message 14 of 24 (826233)
12-26-2017 4:47 PM
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12-24-2017 3:23 PM


there is also T-Mobile I believe.

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Message 15 of 24 (826456)
01-02-2018 10:18 AM
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12-26-2017 4:47 PM


4 major carriers/networks
there is also T-Mobile I believe.

Yes indeed.

So I now have a phone on SimpleMobile.com for $30/month. There are a number of levels to choose from

This compares in service to what I am paying over $40/month from Verizon.

If the $50/month "Truly Unlimited" plan can stream my tv shows to the TV then I can lose the Direct TV satellite service, so I will attempt this.

Enjoy


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