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Author Topic:   WILLOWTREE asserts that GOD built the Great Pyramid.
jar
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Message 1 of 32 (115111)
06-14-2004 3:27 PM


It has been asserted in Message 63 that the Great Pyramid was built by GOD and that all the other pyramids are but later copies.
WILLOWTREE writes:
My point was for all intents and purposes nobody (my opponents) has spent 10 hours of their life reviewing the evidence and sources pertaining to the claims that God built the Pyramid.
What evidence is available to either support that assertion or to refute it?

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 2 of 32 (115115)
06-14-2004 3:44 PM


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Abshalom
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Message 3 of 32 (115120)
06-14-2004 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by jar
06-14-2004 3:27 PM


So What's the Difference?
So, then what specifically is the difference between an ability to construct the "Great Pyramid" and any other pyramid that essentially is the same structure only on a slightly smaller scale. The complexity of engineering, layout, and construction is the same. The materials are the same kind and weight. So what's the difference, Willow?

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custard
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Message 4 of 32 (115417)
06-15-2004 3:21 PM
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06-14-2004 3:27 PM


Dude,
There is nothing but willowtree's desire to reinterpret reality. This quote from him/her (in the same thread you cite) says it all (emphasis mine):
willowtree writes:
Commercial television will only parrot the drivel of egyptologists and their nonsense that humans beings thousands of years ago built this genius structure with incline planes, levers, pulleys, and slave labor. Any objective person who LOOKS at the scientific evidence alone will quickly abandon the aforementioned rubbish.
Ahh, I thought egyptologists were scientists, who, as scientists, followed that thingy called the 'scientific method.' You know, where an objective person is supposed to look at the scientific evidence and abandon rubbish...

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Message 5 of 32 (115431)
06-15-2004 3:40 PM
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06-14-2004 3:27 PM


Jar:
I provided the evidence in my topic "Proof of God".
Why this duplicate topic is allowed to surface is suspect.
What refutes the evidence in "Proof of God" ?
Please show it to me.
I have never encountered any.
Why couldn't this debate continue in my topic ?

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jar
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Message 6 of 32 (115436)
06-15-2004 3:46 PM
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06-15-2004 3:40 PM


Let's start with the issues raised in
Message 3
Message 17
Message 22
Message 29
Message 39

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Message 7 of 32 (115444)
06-15-2004 4:05 PM
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06-14-2004 3:59 PM


Re: So What's the Difference?
The difference is the Great Pyramid is the only remaining Great Wonder of the world.
Your question reveals honest ignorance. Just scroll down to my topic "Proof of God" and review the evidence I posted. When you become up to speed please re-ask you questions.
I will tell you that the Great Pyramid contained no heathen inscriptions or writing within the interior unlike all the other inferior pyramids.
The coffer in the Kings Chamber is the only movable object in the Pyramid and it never contained any body or mummy. The spiral markings inside the coffer indicate that it was bored out by an overhead pressure that would be impossible to produce by any known technology thousands of years ago. There is no evidence, other than the unsupported assertions of biased against supernatural Egyptologists, that this Pyramid was built to be a tomb.
Ab:
Please tell me what year mankind forsook the belief that the Earth was flat ?

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Message 8 of 32 (115446)
06-15-2004 4:11 PM
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06-15-2004 3:46 PM


Jar:
Would you please tell me why this debate could not of continued in my topic ?
Next question:
How many hours have you spent reviewing the evidence for my claims ?
(approximately)
What sources did you employ ?
What is my argument, can you objectively repeat it or are you just assuming via your worldview that this cannot be true ?

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custard
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Message 9 of 32 (115449)
06-15-2004 4:16 PM
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06-15-2004 4:05 PM


Re: So What's the Difference?
Please tell me what year mankind forsook the belief that the Earth was flat ?
Talk about your trick questions. You know that is unanswerable. There are people today who claim it is flat: http://www.flat-earth.org/
A better question might be: what positive evidence do we have for when people began to believe the earth was round?

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Message 10 of 32 (115455)
06-15-2004 4:29 PM
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06-15-2004 4:16 PM


Re: So What's the Difference?
Either way - whats the answer ?
Please Custard, everyone knows about the Flat Earth Society.

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Message 11 of 32 (115467)
06-15-2004 4:55 PM
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06-15-2004 4:29 PM


Re: So What's the Difference?
How about this (from this link www.ucsb.edu/fscf/library/RUSSELL/FlatEarth.html
A round earth appears at least as early as the sixth century BC with Pythagoras, who was followed by Aristotle, Euclid, and Aristarchus, among others in observing that the earth was a sphere. Although there were a few dissenters--Leukippos and Demokritos for example--by the time of Eratosthenes (3 c. BC), followed by Crates(2 c. BC), Strabo (3 c. BC), and Ptolemy (first c. AD), the sphericity of the earth was accepted by all educated Greeks and Romans.
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Message 12 of 32 (115476)
06-15-2004 5:15 PM


I don't understand willowtree's need to prove the existence of God. I thought God was something one took on faith. So why try to prove the existence of God to non-believers?

  
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Message 13 of 32 (115480)
06-15-2004 5:36 PM
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06-15-2004 4:55 PM


Re: So What's the Difference?
Good.
Why were we taught in school that prior to Columbus the then known world believed the Earth was flat ?
Why is Joshua criticized for believing the sun stood still ?
Joshua reported what he saw, and from his perspective the sun stood still, but in fact we know now that if this event happened it was the Earth that stood still.

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jar
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Message 14 of 32 (115489)
06-15-2004 5:49 PM
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06-15-2004 5:36 PM


Re: So What's the Difference?
I don't know why you were taught that prior to Columbus the then known world believed the earth was flat.
Why were you taught such nonsense?
Joshua is criticized for believing the Sun stood still... because it didn't happen. The Earth did not stand still either.

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jar
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Message 15 of 32 (115490)
06-15-2004 5:56 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Cold Foreign Object
06-15-2004 4:11 PM


I brought it here because you never bothered to respond to the questions asked of you just as you are still refusing to answer the questions. In addition, you referenced the subject in yet another thread and implied that it was fact instead of gossamer.
You ask how many hours I spent on your claims (there was no evidence)?
Less than two minutes. There were so many errors and absurdities right at the beginning that it would be foolish to devote any more time.
If your claim is other than that the Egytians built the Great Pyramid you need to start with something that has some credibility and is not so full of errors.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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