chaospoet writes:
St. Malachy was born in Ireland in 1094 and was ordained a priest in 1109 at 25. He went to Rome in 1139 to deliver an account of his diocese to Pope Innocent 11.While there he had visions of the future lineage of Holy Fathers yet to be confirmed in conclave.
Was the record of his prophecies by Arnold Wion titled LIGNUM VITAE accurate or the ramblings of a dillusional man?
Hmmm...Gotta go for the Google to get into this topic, chaos! I found several sites of information. The
Catholic Encyclopedia was informative, as was the
catholic-pages.com. The latter stated that
catholic-pages writes:
The most famous and best known prophecies about the popes are those attributed to St. Malachy. In 1139 he went to Rome to give an account of the affairs of his diocese to the pope, Innocent II, who promised him two palliums for the metropolitan Sees of Armagh and Cashel.
While at Rome, he received (according to the Abbé Cucherat) the strange vision of the future wherein was unfolded before his mind the long list of illustrious pontiffs who were to rule the Church until the end of time. The same author tells us that St. Malachy gave his manuscript to Innocent II to console him in the midst of his tribulations, and that the document remained unknown in the Roman Archives until its discovery in 1590 (Cucherat, "Proph. de la succession des papes", ch. xv).
They were first published by Arnold de Wyon, and ever since there has been much discussion as to whether they are genuine predictions of St. Malachy or forgeries. The silence of 400 years on the part of so many learned authors who had written about the popes, and the silence of St. Bernard especially, who wrote the "Life of St. Malachy", is a strong argument against their authenticity, but it is not conclusive if we adopt Cucherat's theory that they were hidden in the Archives during those 400 years.
Of course, internet "wisdom" is shaky at times.
this site is one of those with questionable credentials, but it lists the Popes of recent time...(seems that they are trying to make it all fit, however).
Chaospoet, what do
you think about all of this? You seem to be a spiritual truth seeker and have brought up a valid controversial faith based topic. Were you raised Catholic?
Another topic similar to this that I often wondered about was the hidden vision of the children at Fatima...the "last" vision.
This message has been edited by Phat, 02-21-2006 02:23 AM
Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either, but right through every human heart, and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. Even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained; and even in the best of all hearts, there remains a small corner of evil. --Alexander Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago
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