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Conspirator
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Message 1 of 221 (33745)
03-06-2003 10:04 AM


Go ahead and post a supposed "contradiction" and I'll tell you how it isn't a contradiction. This should be fun.
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Message 2 of 221 (33747)
03-06-2003 10:09 AM


adam and eve being the first two people on earth...

if thats the case....when cain dwelled in the land of nod...where did his wife come from...

i know your answer...but i want to here it anyway...


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Message 3 of 221 (33748)
03-06-2003 10:14 AM


Cain married his sister (or possibly a niece). The Bible says Adam "begot sons and daughters" (Gen 5:4). In fact, since Adam lived 930 years (Gen 5:5), he had plenty of time for plenty of children! Cain could have married one of his many sisters, or even a niece, if he married after his brothers and sisters had grown daughters. In that case, of course, one of his brothers would have married a sister, which was not forbidden until much later (Lev. 18:9)

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Message 4 of 221 (33749)
03-06-2003 10:17 AM


Next....
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Message 5 of 221 (33752)
03-06-2003 10:32 AM


I know you people want to post...
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Message 6 of 221 (33754)
03-06-2003 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Conspirator
03-06-2003 10:17 AM


Genesis 5
1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:
4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

Why are Cain and Abel not mentioned here?

This is a list of the GENERATIONS of Adam, Cain should be mentioned first(Gen 4:1). In fact, neither Cain nor Abel are mentioned in this mythological genealogy. Good support for Welhausen I'd say.

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Message 7 of 221 (33764)
03-06-2003 12:30 PM
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03-06-2003 10:14 AM


Conspirator writes:

Cain married his sister (or possibly a niece). The Bible says Adam "begot sons and daughters" (Gen 5:4).

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that it is possible that Cain married his sister or a niece? And that therefore the question about who Cain married is not evidence either way for Biblical accuracy?

--Percy


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Message 8 of 221 (33768)
03-06-2003 1:44 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Percy
03-06-2003 12:30 PM


He took his wife to the land of nod.
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ME2
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Message 9 of 221 (33777)
03-06-2003 3:06 PM


like i said..i know your answer...so by you logic...he could have had sex with eve..if he wanted to..

tell me..what ever happened to adam's first wife?

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Message 10 of 221 (33779)
03-06-2003 3:18 PM
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03-06-2003 10:04 AM


"Behold, You have put me forth this day upon the faces of the ground; and from Your faces shall I be hidden; and I shall be shaken and wandering in the earth; and it shall become, (that) all finding me shall kill me."

And god said to him, "Therefore, any killing Cain shall suffer vengeance seven(fold)." And god set a sign upon Cain, that all finding him may not kill him.

i'm curious....if there are only 3 people left...cain.adam,and eve

why talk as if there are others....

and please...don't say that it pertains to his brothers and sisters....they weren't born yet....and how would they know what the mark stood for...

explain that...how would anyone know what that mark on cain stood for...it would be the same as you having a mark on you...i wouldn't know if it was a birth mark or scar....and don't say devine influence because his family were not scribes..hence they could not interpret god's influence...at least that what you thumpers say...


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Message 11 of 221 (33782)
03-06-2003 3:35 PM


'And he [jesus] said, 'Get behind me Satan'.'
Brian
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Message 12 of 221 (33784)
03-06-2003 4:12 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Conspirator
03-06-2003 10:14 AM


What is the contradiction here, as the Bible doesn't specify who Cain's wife was, how can there be a contradiction to explain?

PS, Why aren't Cain and Abel listed in Adam's generations?

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Message 13 of 221 (33787)
03-06-2003 4:26 PM
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03-06-2003 4:12 PM


BRIAN

you are kinda touching on what i and others are saying...

the bible says that adam and eve were the first two people on earth...this is simple plain english...it's not veague or dose it contain any ambiguity...but the bible as you stated was not clear on where cain's wife came from...but yet to fill in the holes...christians infer that his wife was his kin folk...even though the bible did not and dose not say this...

in it's self they prove the point that people interpret and see the bible in different ways..

also...the bible dose not speak of adam and eve as having sex untile they were kicked out of the garden...and when the bible dose mention it...it is the birth of able;then cain...

so if god said be fruitful and mulitply how was this possible in the garden of eden.....if they were having sex...why dosen't the bible mention it...as it dose when they are expelled...


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ME2
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Message 14 of 221 (33788)
03-06-2003 4:50 PM


conspritor

here is the book of genesis is order of verses

001:026 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea,
and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over
all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth
upon the earth.

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our
likeness:...."""OUR"""" hmmmmm meaning more that one
i'll get back to this

001:027 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God
created he him; male and female created he them.

001:028 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and
multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have
dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the
air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth ""REPLENISH""" hmmmi'll have to get back at this also

001:029
001:030
001:031
002:001
002:002
002:003
002:004
002:005 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and
every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had
not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man
to till the ground.

and there was not a man to till the ground....wasn't there adam?

002:006
002:007 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and
breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became
a living soul

were there two creations of man?...in verse 001:027...god created adam...and here in verse 002:007 he creates man again...

i'll get to that other stuff later....but why the two creations of man....

if you are going to take the bible word for word...do it in all cases..

what was that arrogant remark you said...next..or was it..i know you want to post...or something to that effect...

look hard and long...you can't wiggle out of this...there are no missing or added verses..they are here and in order...

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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 15 of 221 (33799)
03-06-2003 6:44 PM
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03-06-2003 4:50 PM


2 or 1?
I've run into this one before, and it seems to me that the first account of creation in Gen 1, is a detailed account of the creation. Where as the account in Gen 2, is a summarized account of the creation. I'll have to go read it again, but I looked into this when I first came onto this forum, it was one of John's first attacks.

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