Ok, lets do this systematic - Where everything is logged and categorized -- Following the whole evolutionary trail --- Of what it is based on ---- Why + how they came up with this theory ----- To show the population just what they say they are in on ------ To see if they will choose to stay believing ------- This total farce -------- Concocted by only a few --------- To fool the masses
It was because of fossils that the first evolutionist came into being - It is fossils that is their evidence of evolution -- It supposedly PROVES evolution is a reality --- That is,,, if you believe how they were all formed ---- Over billions and billions of years ----- Instead of one humongous flood ------ Like the Geneses description ------- of the Bible
It must be billions and billions of years - To give enough time for countless microscopic changes to take place -- For people to be able to consider this ridiculous solution --- Of a “simple” bacteria being able to ---- Changing into man - But,,, it was only about 6 000 years -- And all the many layers were laid down by the floor of Geneses --- In a very short time = forty days and forty nights ---- And we can prove this very easily and very quickly ----- It is just that,,, they do not want to prove it ------ Because they do not want there to be a god ------- That sees all + knows all -------- To judge them for deeds - This can be easily proved -- Because if fossils happened the way that they have devised --- Then there would be a huge layer depth change ---- In the spot where the fossil was ----- To represent the local flood ------ But there is no depth change in the area ------- And they will just ignore this discrepancy -------- For there own gain --------- So they hide this - Why do they let this false fabrication stand -- And not want our children taught this hidden humanist religious doctrine --- Because most don’t know any better ---- And let this “one” discrepancy pass ----- Not knowing of the deep goings on of the deception ------ That Satan has pulled over on us ------- That destroys our children -------- Keeping them from knowing --------- our God + Saviour - it could be soooooooooooo simple to prove wrong -- by making sure there is a measurable depth difference --- at all of the fossil sites ---- if not only one site ----- I bet that they cannot show a difference in depth ------ In any fossil dig sites ------- I would have to say, that I may have just screamed out an alarm call -------- To this whole godless world --------- We need revival now ---------- While the age of grace is still here
------------------------------------------------ I don’t know why we insult God + even our own intelligence - Nor why we allow our governments to teach this junk to our children o And not only do they teach it as the only theory to how His-tory began § But talk about it as law · Calling it as undisputable o Denying the religious part to it
trying to fool ourselves, (and our upcoming children) into believing this crazy theory that we came from the dust of the earth (without the Hand of God forming us) starting out as bacteria and then the result of billions of genetic mistakes
Ok, do you even know how complex our genetic makeup is? There is enough complexity in the simplest cell in our body (as in, there are enough letters in the genetic code) here is a quote from the: Center for Scientific Creation
“there is enough information capacity in a single human cell to store the Encyclopaedia Britannica, all 30 volumes of it, three or four times over”
NOW,,, how can any sane person, reasonably think that - all of this just simply fell into place o billions + billions of little mistakes § that all turned out to be for the better THEN,,, no one can explain where all of these innumerable atoms came from - they are what everything is made of o yet they are too small to see or even measure § we are still not sure of how they are made · notice I say ”made”, as in formed o as in, purposely created § because of their amazing complexity - we only know that they hold massive amounts of energy in them o we found this out by crudely breaking one § which took the smartest minds on the planet · to smash only a few them o creating sooo much crude explosive power § that they even worried about igniting the upper atmosphere - we also know that all matter,(atoms) has a limited life expectancy o as it can only exist for a limited time § and all of everything will eventually disintegrate · running out of energy o complex forms of energy
HOW CAN WE LET THESE HUMANISTs(A RELIGEON) DECIEVE OUR CHILDREN
I believe that God has given me great wisdom, along with the willingness and ability to be taught all things, I believe that He has given me the ability to explain He shows me how to score off the charts in most all IQ tests, That should get them to stand up and take notice, I think that God would show me all of societies paper walls, pointing out to me the flaws in their armour,
Then there is matter,,, What everything is made up of, If it is extremely rare, and against all odds, To have a planet be the right size = mass, And the exact right distance from the sun, To be in a regular orbit,
Then think of all the atoms in the universe, Which all have multiple electrons, All of which are in perfect orbits, What kind of explosion, Formed these complex atoms, And how long will they continue,
The general protocol at this site is to propose a debate around a single topic. You have proposed several topics that I can see:
Taphonomy - You want to argue that the evolutionists explanation would result in evidence of a depth change of some kind, one that is absent.
Complexity - You want to argue that the large amount of complex information (or whatever your preferred term is) is evidence for a creator of some kind.
Fine tuning - You want to argue that the earth or the universe's configuration is finely tuned, presumably towards the end of being habitable for complex life.
Maybe there are other arguments in there, but your style may make it difficult to follow exactly. Either way, pick a single topic of one of those and edit your original post so that it only deals with that topic. Your argument in favour of it, any supporting evidence you would like to put forward and your argument against the consensus views of science/humanist deceivers.
Once that debate has been going for a little while, feel free to propose a new topic about any other subjects you'd like to debate.
There have been 6 responses since he posted this about a week ago, and he hasn't responded to any yet. He may not understand how to use discussion boards, which would explain why he posted his proposal here again, see devestation of this evolution fairy tale.
I don't know why this is happening now because it's never happened before, but in the past month we've had two others who couldn't seem to figure out how discussion boards work, jchardy and Jet Thomsom. They had both turned on email notification for their threads, and then they responded to the email notifications, and when I noticed the emails I email'd them back instructions. But I haven't noticed any email from IQ165+ yet, so who knows.
The general protocol at this site is to propose a debate around a single topic. You have proposed several topics that I can see: JOE = I want to destroy this evolution fairy tale JOE = and there is so much ammunition in your theory JOE = that I just fired off a few to start with JOE = believe me,,, if you allow me to continue my argument JOE = I have hundreds of chinks in your evolution armour to display here
Taphonomy - You want to argue that the evolutionists explanation would result in evidence of a depth change of some kind, one that is absent. JOE = yes,,, this is the HAMMER that will be the death of this evolution fairy tale JOE = it is obvious that this MUST occur, for there to even be a fossil there in the first place JOE = unless it was laid down in the flood JOE = I guarantee you,,, there is no difference in any of the fossil strata JOE = and they ignore this evidence JOE = and never even check to see if there is a difference in the first place
Complexity - You want to argue that the large amount of complex information (or whatever your preferred term is) is evidence for a creator of some kind. JOE = yes, the simplest little human cell has enough DNA data in it, JOE = to be able to write the entire Encyclopaedia Britannica JOE = all 30 volumes of it,,, 3 to 4 time over JOE = and you think all of this DNA just popped into being by chance JOE = this takes greater faith than I can mustter
Fine tuning - You want to argue that the earth or the universe's configuration is finely tuned, presumably towards the end of being habitable for complex life. JOE = yes,,, everything is wonderfully made by God JOE = just think of a single atom JOE = it has many electrons JOE = which are in perfect orbits JOE = what kind of an explosion makes these complex atoms
Maybe there are other arguments in there, but your style may make it difficult to follow exactly. JOE = yes, sorry about that JOE = but there are just soooo many ways JOE = to destroy evolution JOE = I will enjoy watching it crumble
Either way, pick a single topic of one of those and edit your original post so that it only deals with that topic. JOE = ok, I can do that JOE = I want to be co-operative JOE = and be able to stay on this forum
Your argument in favour of it, any supporting evidence you would like to put forward and your argument against the consensus views of science/humanist deceivers.
Once that debate has been going for a little while, feel free to propose a new topic about any other subjects you'd like JOE = ok,,, will do JOE = thanks for your help JOE = I only want to be heard JOE = I don’t want to be dificult
I have much on my mind, God has been sharing some pretty wild details with me Like stuff that makes you re-look at things that you thought you knew
I go back to His Writings for explanation (Rom 1:20)= For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
How the atomic structure is soooo amazing (it is made of invisible things) How was it, no were they, as they are in the billions times billions of them We are not asking the real tricky questions With the Signature of God on them The atomic structure of matter is awesome
We are asking the wrong questions We are only asking where we came from Within humanists readings and barriers Of so-called evolution How were all these atoms formed in the first place
I feel like David against goliath Who takes down the monstrous giant of a problem With a pebble to the head – or – Atom to the mind = Super complex system in perfect orbit Complex energy readings in each atom Each with its energizer battery inside Keeping it running (energy to last many thousands of years) if not an awful lot longer but they all have complex mechanisms in them which will stop working eventually
I lack the capacity to fashion this raw material into a functioning debate proposal. I suspect others also lack similarly. I'll close this down at some point unless another moderator can see what I am blind to.
I lack the capacity to fashion this raw material into a functioning debate proposal.
JOE this raw material, (atomic structure) is what this debate proposal is all about JOE the ATOM is what I wish to be the basis of this debate JOE or should I say, the complexity of the atomic structure JOE the atom is wonderfully + beautifully made JOE they have amazingly complex structure inside them JOE they might not last forever, but some last for an awful long time JOE but they do have a cut off limit, and will eventually decompose JOE having a point in time where they will no longer exist
I suspect others also lack similarly. I'll close this down at some point unless another moderator can see what I am blind to.
JOE hopefully the other moderators will agree that I may have stumbled upon something big JOE there is so much info out there on theories of how atoms operate and are held together JOE have you ever seen the beautiful drawings of atomic structures and all of it’s workings JOE with all of the complexity of how they figure that they are structured JOE the beautifully fashioned symmetry JOE and please don’t forget,,, this is only one,,, of billions of billions of them JOE and we are suppose to believe that these were all created in the big bang
You still haven't responded to a single reply in the thread you began with the same material over at Yahoo! Groups, so I don't believe you'd participate in any discussion here, either. And your proposal to discuss the complexity and beauty of the atom is not by itself a topic within the creation/evolution debate. I can see hints of "The atom is so complex it must have been designed" argument, but you never take your proposal that far.
I'm sorry, IQ165+, you've given me nothing to convince me this would make a good debate thread. Closing this down.