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Author Topic:   Physical Laws ....What if they were different before?
foreveryoung
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05-11-2012 10:44 PM


All of nature abides by the physical laws of the universe. Much of creationism is "proven" wrong because its claims violate known physical laws. What if there were a different set of values for all the constants and the equations for forces and fields and energies were slightly different at the beginning than they are today? Isn't it possible to have a functioning universe with a different set of constants and forms of the laws we have today? Are the constants and equations we have today the only possible ones that can produce a universe of matter, energy, space and force? If it is indeed possible for such a reality to exist, wouldn't a change of all the constants and equations to the ones we see today produce a catastrophe of epic proportions? Wouldn't such a scenario make perfectly stable stars turn into supernovas or put them on the path to becoming supernovas? Wouldn't such a scenario make the structure of the original universe undetectable to modern scientific instruments?
This is food for thought for the anti-creationists. It is true that if all the physical laws and constants have been the same as they are today then the claims of creationism are impossible without invoking "poof" type magic. Of course, changing all the laws and constants would be "magic" because there is no physical mechanism that could make such a thing happen. But, what if there is more to reality than the physical world. What is there is another reality that cannot be detected by physical means? If so, such a change in laws and constants would not be magic; it would merely be the result of actions of beings in the non-physical world.
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05-12-2012 8:16 AM
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05-11-2012 10:44 PM


Hi ForEverYoung,
I'm going to promote this, but because this touches on several different but related topics I want to list what they are, just for clarity about what this thread's topic encompasses. The topics I see are:
  • Could the physical laws of the universe have been different in the past?
  • If so, could they have been different in such a way as to be undetectable by us today?
  • Could there be such a thing as an alternate reality that is undetectable?
  • If so, could a change in physical laws be effected from this alternate reality?

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