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02-19-2014 5:28 PM


The ecology is the matrix within which species live and evolve. This is demonstrated by this video:
All the organisms within an ecology work by interactions with all the other organisms, and no one species can be considered on it's own.
Ecology: the branch of biology dealing with the relations and interactions between organisms and their environment, including other organisms.
... from Greek oikos house (hence, environment)
My dad was an ecologist before it was a household word ...
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Message 2 of 5 (720024)
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How ecology informs us about global warming
Trees On The Move As Temperature Zones Shift 3.8 Feet A Day
quote:
... "If I'm standing in a landscape," asked Stanford ecologist a few years ago, "how far do I have to travel in order to change my temperature" — to get back to the climate that suits me? Loarie, Chris Field, and their colleagues at the gathered all the data they could from climate change studies in order to measure "temperature velocity," or, as Scott put it in a podcast at the time, "How fast is temperature change sweeping across the Earth's surface?"
In 2009, they came up with an answer, in the science journal, Nature. As a global average, they said, temperatures are changing at a rate of 0.42 kilometers or roughly, a quarter mile a year, which means that if you are standing on a patch of earth, climate zones are moving at a rate (on average) of about 3.8 feet every day.
... Kenneth Feeley, and his colleagues that trees on these mountain slopes are already in motion. Not all trees, though. Just some.
Feeley looked at changes over a 4-year period, and found that trees have been moving up to get cooler at an average rate of 8 feet a year; but some, Kolbert writes, were "practically hyperactive." Trees from the genus Schefflera, (which we know as part of the gingseng family) were "racing up the ridge at the astonishing rate of nearly a hundred feet a year." Wow!
On the lazier side, when the scientists looked at the genus Ilex (a group of trees that, in North America, include the Christmas holly), those trees weren't moving at all, essentially. They'd spent the four years, "more or less inert."
So the ecology changes, and that means organisms need to adapt or die.
There will likely be many extinctions due to climate change ...
... and many new speciations as organisms adapt.
Testable predictions based on the ecology of living organisms.
Whether it happens sufficiently fast to convince the hide-bound skeptics before we are affected is another question.
So it is possible that trees will adapt faster than humans.
Note that these are measured changes, not predictions.
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Re: How ecology informs us about global warming
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02-20-2014 8:30 PM
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Re: How ecology informs us about global warming
debate topic, probably Biological Evolution.
The idea here is to look at the matrix of life to show how evolutionary biology best explains the web of interactions rather than concentrating on single species.
Ecology predicts how species will react to new predators (Message 1)
Ecology predicts how species will react to global warming (Message 2)
Creationism can't predict either.

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