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caldron68
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Message 1 of 2 (490730)
12-07-2008 7:25 PM


Sorry if this subject has come up before, but since it keeps coming around in small batches in other threads, I thought I would centralize the topic and get a focused discussion going.
The topic up for discussion is God and Satan. Specifically, why did God create Satan and more generally, why does God allow Satan to influence man on Earth?
To get things going, here are two links from where I found the biblical facts that follow:
The Origin of Satan Lucifer Devil bible genesis why did God made make Satan devil Lucifer
Bible Study – Christian Education Resource
Both of these sites have God creating Satan as Lucifer, promoting Lucifer to a position of power and then Lucifer himself creating Satan. And this is where the discussion needs to begin. There are just way too many problems with this scenario considering all of the attributes that have been assigned to God and to Heaven in general:
1) God is omniscient, but can't see that Lucifer will eventually become Satan.
2) Heaven is, well.... Heaven, right? From the stories presented through the links posted above, what we have is a primadonna who eventually develops a problem with the power hierarchy in Heaven and decides that he should have equal power.
So, the problems here are, God is supposed to be Omniscient, but yet does not know that Satan will turn out to be such a little devil, and second, but maybe more important, Heaven is not all it is cracked up to be. Obviously things like envy, greed and hate are also attributes of those beings that occupy Heaven. How can this be? haven't we always been told that Heaven is, well.... Heaven, right? This is the place where all the good people are supposed to go and drink milk and honey and never ever experience a bad day for the rest of eternity, right?
Well, given the story of Satan then none of this is true. Obviously there is a power structure in Heaven other then that of just the head dude in charge. Not only that, but heavenly beings actually have the ability to get pissed off, in heaven no less!!!!!
What do these things say about God and Heaven?
Cheers,
--Caldron68

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Message 2 of 2 (490746)
12-08-2008 5:11 AM


Thread copied to the God and Satan thread in the Faith and Belief forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.

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