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Message 1 of 8 (403337)
06-01-2007 9:42 PM


To focus the discussion on this reference as I think it deserves I've lifted the start from the Creationist charts thread and copied it here.
The thread is here:
New Origin Views Comparison Chart - Is it Accurate/Complete or Not?...
This post is lifted from
Message 14
The off topic dicussion continues from there.
Those who wish to discuss it may copy responses here.
I would like everyone to go slow and do a good job of the analysis. Do not confuse things more. Thanks.
Missing Links
This mainstream evolutionary biologists essentially admits there are no 'missing links' and says change happened suddenly...
"No Missing Link? Evolutionary Changes Occur Suddenly, Professor Says"
EXCERPTS:
"Jeffrey H. Schwartz, University of Pittsburgh professor of anthropology in the School of Arts and Sciences, is working to debunk a major tenet of Darwinian evolution. Schwartz believes that evolutionary changes occur suddenly as opposed to the Darwinian model of evolution, which is characterized by gradual and constant change. Among other scientific observations, gaps in the fossil record could bolster Schwartz's theory because, for Schwartz, there is no "missing link."
"...However, it is not only the current molecular theory that intrigues Schwartz, but the failure of the scientific community to question an idea that is more than 40 years old: "The history of organ life is undemonstrable; we cannot prove a whole lot in evolutionary biology, and our findings will always be hypothesis. There is one true evolutionary history of life, and whether we will actually ever know it is not likely. Most importantly, we have to think about questioning underlying assumptions, whether we are dealing with molecules or anything else," says Schwartz."
Article here: http://www.sciencedaily.com/...ases/2007/02/070210170623.htm
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Here is Dr. Jeffrey Schwartz personal page on the University of Pittsburg website:
Jeffrey H. Schwartz, University of Pittsburgh
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Edited by AdminNosy, : implement admin suggestions

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Message 2 of 8 (403379)
06-02-2007 7:54 AM
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06-01-2007 9:42 PM


Just a few suggestions:
  • You should probably change the author name of the post to NosyNed.
  • The link only needs to be provided once. Providing it twice makes it seem as if there are two different articles.
  • You need to state your position.

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Message 3 of 8 (403389)
06-02-2007 11:03 AM
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Not my position
I don't want to argue the issue. If I do I can't try to moderate it.

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Message 4 of 8 (403471)
06-03-2007 9:29 AM
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06-02-2007 11:03 AM


Re: Not my position
Moderator initiated topics is something I've been interested in encouraging moderators to do, but I wanted to have a PAF discussion about how we should approach it first, but as long as you've kicked this off already my suggestions would be:
  • State that you're beginning a topic that you intend to moderate.
  • Clearly identify and describe the issue.
  • Identify what you believe to be the significant opposing positions on the issue.
Any comments about how best to approach this from you or the rest of the moderator team?

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Message 5 of 8 (403492)
06-03-2007 11:38 AM
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06-03-2007 9:29 AM


Closed
I was trying to save off topic discussions somewhere else and save our newbie some time.
Closed due to lack of interest.

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Message 6 of 8 (403569)
06-04-2007 9:02 AM
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06-03-2007 11:38 AM


Re: Closed
AdminNosy writes:
I was trying to save off topic discussions somewhere else and save our newbie some time.
Closed due to lack of interest.
You're not sensing lack of interest but lack of context. It sounds like this proposal is attempting to address some issue that came up recently in another thread or threads, or maybe with a specific member. Can you provide a link or more info?

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06-04-2007 10:54 AM
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Suggestions implemented
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Message 8 of 8 (403606)
06-04-2007 1:02 PM


Thread copied to the Dr. Schwartz' "MIssing Links" thread in the Biological Evolution forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.

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