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Nuggin
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Message 1 of 4 (468720)
05-31-2008 10:41 PM


I post this knowing full well that it will be deleted as soon as any Creationist admin sees it.
This is a typical tactic from the "Let no one question the lord" crowd.
I used to be a member here. I took several months off and am disgusted to find that upon my return the board has swung so completely in favor of Creationism that you've gone so far as to ban members for daring to question Creationists about their posts.
Bravo!
On a thread here, Wumpini linked quote mined a linked article to try and prove a point he was making. However, the paragraph IMMEDIATELY below the quotemine made it clear that the article in fact completely contradicted his claim.
When confronted with this FACT, he suggested that the parts he wanted from the article be accepted 100% and that the parts he wanted disregarded be ignored.
This is dishonest. Plain and simple. Either the article is reliable or it is not.
When I pointed this out - aggressively but without foul language - I was permenantly banned. No warning. No explanation.
the SAME admin which banned me ALSO posted to compliment people who were giving Wumpini credit.
So there we have it:
Creationist lies, gets congratulated.
Post points out the contradictions and dishonest - permanent ban.
Congratulations "EVC" forum. You are no officially just "C" forum.
Your behavior is disgusting.
Now, go ahead and DELETE my post and PROVE ONCE AND FOR ALL how biased you've become.

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Message 2 of 4 (468752)
06-01-2008 8:26 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Nuggin
05-31-2008 10:41 PM


Hi Nuggin,
Both Adminnemooseus and myself are evolutionists, but as moderators we're committed to enforcing the Forum Guidelines uniformly without regard to viewpoint. You were suspended by me for 8 hours and later by Adminnemooseus for a week for violation of rule 10 from the Forum Guidelines:
  1. Keep discussion civil and avoid inflammatory behavior that might distract attention from the topic. Argue the position, not the person.
Your suspension expires approximately 87 hours 20 minutes from now.
I'm merging your Unacceptable account with your Nuggin account.
Added by Edit: If you hover the cursor over the little red icon next to your account name you'll see the remaining time on your suspension and the reason for it.
Edited by Admin, : Add info.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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Nuggin
Member (Idle past 2492 days)
Posts: 2965
From: Los Angeles, CA USA
Joined: 08-09-2005


Message 3 of 4 (469310)
06-05-2008 2:38 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Admin
06-01-2008 8:26 AM


BS
"Argue the position, not the person."
HOW do you argue the position and not the person when the PERSON IS LYING?
Do you get that?
He blatantly posted material which EVEN HE admitted was unreliable, then proceeded to claim the parts he likes as true and the parts he didn't as false.
That's dishonest. But, TELLING him that that's dishonest gets people kicked.
So, why don't we all just lie? ALL the time. That's the new EVC standard.
Further, I find it incredible DISHONEST of admins to KICK people who disagree with their pet Creationists.
The FACT of the matter is that this poster was LYING. Other posters were COMPLIMENTING him for his lies. And ADMINS were NOMINATING those posters for post of the month.
Or, put another way, SANCTIONING THE DISHONESTY.
Excellent position to take - if you want to support Creationism.
Not so great if you want to support debate.
Additionally, KICKING people WITHOUT discussion for a week doesn't defend your position. It just proves to us that you KNOW that you are wrong and have to abuse your power to quell any opposition.
OBVIOUSLY you'll BOOT ME again for pointing that out. Still won't make you right.
What's next? Editing people's posts to make them sound like their supporting your claims? Kicking everyone who won't bow down to your abuse of power?

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Message 4 of 4 (469360)
06-05-2008 8:43 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Nuggin
06-05-2008 2:38 AM


Re: BS
If you are experiencing the types of issues you describe, the solution is not to begin violating the Forum Guidelines yourself but to request moderator assistance by posting to Windsor castle. Please reference a specific message or two and clearly describe the problem.
Don't feel like you're alone in experiencing these types of situations. I'm currently in a discussion as Percy in Good Calories, Bad Calories, by Gary Taubes where I've made a couple complaints to moderators, but evidently they don't see the problem in the same way I do, and so I soldier on.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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