Would confirmation of the "Biblical Exodus" add any support for God's existence

It is sometimes argued by creationists that certain Biblical accounts and events are evidence for the existence of God. Using the Exodus as an example, this thread will explore the rationale that leads from "the Exodus was real event of history" to the conclusion that "God exists."A side discussion will inevitably develop around "Using the scientific method what can we interpolate from the evidence?" For example, how do we know that a chariot wheel found at the bottom of the Red Sea came from the Exodus? Or, given that the Exodus really happened, how do we establish scientifically the accuracy of the details in the Biblical account, or more specifically for one example, how do we know God parted the waters, or even that the waters parted at all? Obtaining answers to these types of questions would be a key aspect of this thread.But the key question is that even if we're able to reach some rough agreements about dates, events, travel routes, number of people, how does one get from "the Exodus happened" to "God exists"? Whatever rationale is identified, it must be one that is sufficiently nuanced that it doesn't reach wrong conclusions about other similar circumstances. For example, this rationale cannot begin with "Troy exists" to reach the conclusion that "Athena, Eris, Aphrodite, Zeus and Hera exist."Is it Science please.Edited by jar, : add second forum choiceEdited by jar, : Revised per Admin suggestions.Edited by jar, : edits related to discussion with Percy

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

I don't normally become involved in the promotion of threads that address religious topics, but since you PM'd me about this one I'll provide some thoughts.I think that Buzsaw's insistence that he is an IDist has to be ignored. Certainly the Discovery Institute would reject his arguments that Biblical events have implications for ID. For this reason I wouldn't feel comfortable putting this thread in the Intelligent Design forum. If Buz would like a thread for discussing whether his definition of ID is legitimate then that would be fine, but I don't think it would be a good idea to allow this confusion in other threads until he's able to demonstrate that he's correct.But this has the potential for a great Is It Science? topic because it might generate some constructive discussion about claims of a scientific rationale that leads to conclusions about the existence of God. We've attempted this before, but I don't think in the Is It Science? forum. Would you accept this rewrite:

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--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director

I think Is It Science is the better venue, and suggest the topic title be changed to "Would confirmation of the "Biblical Exodus" add any support for God's existence".I agree, let's drop the Intelligent Design component for now and concentrate on one issue.Your rewrite is okay except for {A side discussion will inevitably develop around "how, scientifically, do we really know what we think we know."} because I fear that would just encourage wandering off into the philosophical "how do we know we know" rabbit hole.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Let me tighten up the first sentence of that second paragraph. How's this: If this is okay then I can promote it, or we can work on more changes.

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--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director

How about...A side discussion will inevitably develop around "Using the scientific method what can we interpolate from the evidence?"

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

The Would confirmation of the "Biblical Exodus" add any support for God thread in the Is It Science? forum was promoted based upon discussions in this thread. This thread is now closed.

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--	Percy
	EvC Forum Director