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Taq
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Message 1 of 6 (601519)
01-20-2011 11:38 PM


I happened to catch Ronnie Reagan (son of Ronald) on the Colbert Report tonight. He made an interesting point. If Ronald Reagan were to run on his record would he be the Republican nominee for the 2012 presidential race? A few points:
1. Gave amnesty to illegal immigrants.
2. Raised taxes.
3. Increased the National debt by quite a bit.
4. Ushered in liberal abortion laws in California while governor.
Thoughts?

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Message 2 of 6 (601522)
01-21-2011 12:24 AM


No, Ronald Reagan would not be nominated by the Republican Party, and there is not a single POTUS who would be nominated by either party if they were duplicated as candidates to run in modern Primary races. The most important political issues shift significantly from one decade to the next, and all modern candidates get elected by very careful craftsmanship of their respective platforms. After the candidates are nominated in the primaries, then their platforms shift very sharply to the center, quicker and more shamelessly with each progressing election season. Ron Reagan claimed that his father was too liberal to be nominated in the Republican Primary, but one problem with that claim is that the spectrum from liberalism to conservatism is not a one-dimensional scale as the partisans so often imagine it, and another problem is that President Reagan fell on many positions of that spectrum at various times of his own life. He was liberal when he was governor of California, he was conservative when he ran for the Republican nomination, and he was centrist when he was POTUS. If he got in a time machine and tried to run for the Republican nomination today, then he would be conservative according to how it is defined today, just like any other Republican candidate (except maybe for Ron Paul).

  
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Message 3 of 6 (601531)
01-21-2011 6:42 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taq
01-20-2011 11:38 PM


Does being dead no longer exclude you from running for president?

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Taq
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Message 4 of 6 (601547)
01-21-2011 11:30 AM
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01-21-2011 6:42 AM


Does being dead no longer exclude you from running for president?
It does put more importance on the running mate, that is for sure.

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01-21-2011 4:32 PM
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01-21-2011 6:42 AM


Dead Presidents
The only constitutional restrictions I am aware of require the President to be a natural born citizen, been a resident within the country for 14 years and be at least 35 years of age. Says nothing about actually having to be alive to hold the office, which kind of explains Millard Fillmore.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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01-21-2011 7:05 PM
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01-20-2011 11:38 PM


If Ronald Reagan were to run on his record would he be the Republican nominee for the 2012 presidential race?
1-3 are what he did as president, so that wouldn't be relevant if he was running for first term.
What he promised through Reganomics was lower taxes and increase in defense spending. And that promise would get him the nominee.
I guess he wouldn't be re-elected if he did 1-3 during his first term.
- Oni

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