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julinda
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Message 1 of 11 (99899)
04-14-2004 7:49 AM


Hello, I would like to ask how is it possible to use ict in chemistry lessons. I want to gain some usefull practical information from science teachers. Or just your opinion or some practical advice. Maybe whether you are satisfied or not with this form of education. Next year Im going to become a teacher and I would like to try modern ways of teaching....
Thank you very much for your help

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Brad McFall
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Message 2 of 11 (100060)
04-14-2004 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by julinda
04-14-2004 7:49 AM


What is ICT?

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julinda
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Message 3 of 11 (100201)
04-15-2004 10:47 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Brad McFall
04-14-2004 7:44 PM


technologies
I meant using information and comunication technologies within science education. computers - internet, CDs, anything connected with technologies. It is very important source of information and give many opportunities, but in science learning it is important also to do experiment yourself. Thats why the opinions of teachers differ and I just wanted to create mine.)

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Denesha
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Message 4 of 11 (100207)
04-15-2004 11:12 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by julinda
04-15-2004 10:47 AM


Re: technologies
Dear Julinda,
I'm not teacher but I think some disciplines are not adapted to be educated with a computer. A 100% computed based education is not a pretty good idea. Just an opinion. I feel this will be too much theoretic.
Also, the spread (popularisation) of this method is quite inequitable regarding students from the third world. If they have only one PC for all the school, it's close to a miracle. I prefer not thinking of a broad band connexion.
Denesha

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Denesha
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Message 5 of 11 (100208)
04-15-2004 11:15 AM
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04-15-2004 11:12 AM


Re: technologies
OUPS!
I used "miracle" in my previous post.
Please don't read this word with the religious sense.
Best synonym here could be "pleasant event".

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Darwin Storm
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Message 6 of 11 (100255)
04-15-2004 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by julinda
04-15-2004 10:47 AM


Re: technologies
Some information and comm techs can be usefull, but as long as they aid in teaching, not replace it. I think certain chemistry demonstrations, ect, if they can be done live are great, but I realize that their are some very nice demonstration videos and active model diagrams that are not possible in the classroom. My experience is that live participation and demonstration of principles is the best way to go if feasable. They help maintain interest.
I think the best thing to do is try different methods of teaching. Try working with ICT stuff where it will be a help, or reduce time, and doesn't detract from the teaching. The last thing you want is students just sitting their watching videos all class period. Teaching is very much like a artform. You need to know the facts to present them, but you must know how to present them and engage the students to think for them to actually learn.
Be creative, and try what you think will best convey the ideas and material to your students in an intersting and engaging manner.

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julinda
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Message 7 of 11 (101521)
04-21-2004 8:53 AM
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04-15-2004 3:54 PM


Re: technologies
I understood.. But I still dont know at which school I will be teaching..and it is possible that I wont have as many computers as it is necessary for all students. Is it also possible to use only one computer for the whole class?And I still cant imagine (because of lack of the experience) how can I guide the lesson like this.

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julinda
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Message 8 of 11 (101524)
04-21-2004 9:05 AM
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04-15-2004 11:12 AM


Re: technologies
Thanx for an opinion...I thought that it is a good idea to teach this way.Because in some cases it is easier...and whether there are computers available why not to use them?
yes we can think about children in the third word but we wont help them by not using comps in the classroom)

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Loudmouth
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Message 9 of 11 (101632)
04-21-2004 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by julinda
04-14-2004 7:49 AM


Just my opinion, take it or leave it, but the best training in any science is hands on. An exothermic reation is only a word until you make a 5 molar solution of NaOH. A vigorous reaction is only a word until you mix acetic acid and sodium bicarbonate. I think computers can help with basic concepts, such as calculating molarity or placing electrons in orbitals, but the real learning is in trying to manipulate the actual chemicals and the smell, heat, and sensation of an ongoing chemical reaction. Actually doing the experiments adds a romance to science, a romance that could drive some students into learning more about chemistry after their secondary education.
Of course, I could be an old school rube who knows nothing about current education technologies. Who knows.

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Brad McFall
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Message 10 of 11 (101819)
04-22-2004 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by julinda
04-15-2004 10:47 AM


Re: technologies
If the Glaydshev communiKAA is true, then indeed I would have to agree with you. Cornell bioloigsts did not want to think about evolution as deeply as Gladyshev proposed to restrain the physics of Creationism as to form-making molecularly and so there could be PLENTY of things to teach with computers as to acid-base reactions that might even find useful XML programmers a job.
I had thought the abbreviation might have been for something else at first. Thanks for the clarification.

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Message 11 of 11 (102123)
04-23-2004 4:21 AM


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