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Author Topic:   Why is the President Lying ... again?
arachnophilia
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Message 2 of 103 (147126)
10-04-2004 3:43 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
10-04-2004 3:09 AM


as a relatively new kerry supporter, how exactly is it a lie? just for clarification.
kerry's view does seem to be that we should pay attention to world's opinion of our actions, because it's better to have their support. it's not so much waiting for their opinions to come in, but taking it into account.
at least that was how i understood it?

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arachnophilia
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Message 38 of 103 (147363)
10-05-2004 12:36 AM
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10-04-2004 4:45 AM


In this context, "global test" means a universal test where "your people understand fully... and you can prove to the world...."
understood. i do agree with this, i was just looking for clarification on the lie.
I'm a Kerry supporter and there are some things that I criticize him for. For example, when Kerry was asked to give an outline of his plan and a time line, Kerry tried to dodge the question by refering to what Bush is doing rather than what he (Kerry) plans to do. Furthermore, he failed to give any kind of timeline as was asked.
but in fairness, i remember screaming at bush on the television at least once "ANSWER THE F'ING QUESTION!" one of his dodges in particular was spectacular: he was asked about afghanistan, and responded by thanking lehrer, the press, etc, and then talking about iraq.

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arachnophilia
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Message 79 of 103 (147608)
10-05-2004 4:57 PM
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10-05-2004 2:48 AM


Anyway, everybody dodges questions they can't answer
especially on this board. in fact, i still haven't gotten even replies to some of my hard questions posed to fundamentalists.
You could say I have higher expectation on the candidate that I support than the candidate that I don't support.
i was just comparing who dodged worse, not especially favoring either candidate when i watched the debate.
This is something that the Bush supporters seem to lack, I think. They don't seem to question him.
because it's the american duty to stand behind the president, didn't you know? questioning authority is unpatriotic nowadays.

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