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johnfolton 
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Message 9 of 103 (147169)
10-04-2004 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by RAZD
10-04-2004 10:48 AM


Kerry lacks leadership abilities, because of his double speak, etc...
I'm not a politician, but either were a soveign nation or were not, you all didn't seem outraged at the communist butchering millions of south vietnamese after we left them defenseless, truly you democrats should read up on Chamberlain, don't realize the terrorists made a house call on the pentagon, killed hundreds of our leaders, and you all sit back and say we should look to the United Nations who believe Israel shouldn't build a wall to protect the palestian children from blowing themselves up because with a wall they would not be able to cross over to blow up Israelies, etc...Globalisms, asking the UN to intercede, to make our decisions, is just not the answer, we need to be a soverign nation, not bound by International courts, so we can make our own decisions(the senate, Congress agreed as did Mr. Kerry that going to war with Sadamn based on the intelligence was the right thing to do), etc...If you don't want us to be a soverign nation, then whats the reason your an american, the problem with Kerry is that he flips positions, begging the question of his ability to lead, the world needs stability, and an unstable president that flips positions constantly, as political winds dictate, is not in our best interest, etc...

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Message 12 of 103 (147178)
10-04-2004 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by NosyNed
10-04-2004 11:56 AM


Ned, I realize Canada is likely going down the slippery slope, in respect to the freedom to preach about abominations(what Mr. Kerry appear to avoid talking about, those abominations), it appears Canada has been moving to aline your laws with the United Nations Charter, just wondering, did Canada sign up to belong to the International World Courts, what GWB said would not bind Americans to, but all that aside, a little off topic, just curious, what kind of sports car did you decide to buy, etc...
Why Won’t the U.S. Ratify the CEDAW Human Rights Treaty?

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Message 35 of 103 (147251)
10-04-2004 5:57 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by RAZD
10-04-2004 5:26 PM


Razd, The facts do elude you, GWB has given Americans a tax break, the Stock Market has not crashed showing the economy is strong, you are lying to say Mr. Kerry has been honest to the american people, because you fully well know that he has not released all his medical, military records, you know he is not supposed to even be running for the office in the land, because he violated the fourteenth amendment section 3, the Vets are outraged because of this, and yet you still support the man, its quite hard to believe, actually, etc...
P.S. What needs to be done actually is to vote the democrats our of office, so its the will of the people and not the will of the activist judges, so the people are protected from having a candidate that violates our constitution, running for the highest office of the land, etc...
You truly don't want hateful people (activists judges) forcing the homosexual agenda upon the people, when the people have been allowed to vote about same sex marriage, they have consistently voted against Gay marriages, truly was not the entire nation outraged when only a few catholic homosexual pedifiles molested young boys, the nation is not for the same sex revolution, and its being spitefully, hatefully shoved down upon the citizens against their will, using hate speech laws, to force the will of only several judges, senators, etc...forcing their will over the will of the majority of the people of this land. This is clearly something that should be voted upon, not shoved upon the people, when the constitution is supposed to be the will of the people, etc...We all know its an abomination, which is why you can only Praise GWB for standing up for the rights of the churches to protect them from the infidels that would force their beliefs upon the religion of Jesus Christ, which violates the separation of Church and State, etc...Mr. Kerry has not the guts, nor the leadership to stand up to the Gay people, a real reason to not vote for the man, etc...

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Message 49 of 103 (147468)
10-05-2004 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by RAZD
10-05-2004 9:52 AM


Re: Kerry is NOT the issue. the ISSUE is WHY is the PRESIDENT LYING?
Kerry is the issue, you never answered why its not an outrage that Kerry is even allowed to run for president when he violated the fourteenth amendment section 3, the Vets that are both republicans, democrats, and independents are predominately all outraged by Mr. Kerry and not Mr. Bush lying to the American People.
P.S. Kerry appears to be both a liar and a thief, lying about his qualifications to run for the highest office of the land, flip flopping, so to tickle your ear(but is he really telling the truth)(No) because Kerry consistently says the one thing and votes to raise taxes, etc..., and premeditated thief for taking a salary for time not present in the senate, when as a lawyer he knows that this is violating the laws on the books. Why is not the media, outraged, and not plastering the media that Mr. Kerry refused to release his complete medical, military records. The Vets have called Mr. Kerry a liar, you do realize he lied about being present in Cambodia on Christmas Eve, meaning he perjured himself, its Mr. Kerry thats the liar, and a traitor to us and ours, etc...Truly he is not fit for command, has not shown he is capable of leading, while in the senate, much more of a pragmatist like William Chamberlain taking Britian to the edge, that while might be good in research, is not the kind of intellect to make decisions, like Winston Churchhill (who valued the truth), because he would be stuck in researching, like he appears to not realize we were attacked, in 911, then at times he says he supported the Iraq senerio, you don't need an unstable man for president, Candidates should undergo mental testing to see, if like Kerry's case if his flip flopping on the issues, is a severe mental condition like Benedict Arnold had with self and not country, etc...
Presidential Debates
Message 130 of 130 10-04-2004 03:20 PM
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Not that I expect the quality to be higher there, but I think the Bush/Kerry debate can carry on at Why is the President Lying ... again?
Adminnemooseus

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Message 52 of 103 (147473)
10-05-2004 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 51 by Mammuthus
10-05-2004 11:37 AM


Re: who needs mental testing?
Adminnemooseus said the Kerry debate could be discussed on this thread, but we have confusion, because another moderator disagrees though when I had a thread on Mr. Kerry Unfit for Command, they refused to limit the debate to just Mr. Kerry, so I can not respond about who between the two needs mental testing, until the moderators get their act together, its all simply an example of media bias, etc..

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Message 72 of 103 (147520)
10-05-2004 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 67 by RAZD
10-05-2004 12:28 PM


GWB is the statesman, more so than a politician, the problem is that politicians that say only what your ears want to hear, and GWB has only been upfront with the American People. GWB is liken to John Quincy Adams, a statesman and a politician. You may not like all that he says, but its the statesman in GWB, that he feels for those that are dying for our freedoms.
P.S. In GWB you have a man who's politics are reined in by his statemanship, GWB is more that a politician that says whatever tickles your ear, in hindsight, its quite easy to tickle your ear, cause the politician will flip flop because they are not reigned in by being a statesman(honest), etc...Media bias is not fairly covering GWB, because of how statesmanship (fundemental differences) is contrary to media bias, you have to look to Fox News to get the rest of the story, this bias is extending to all fronts of life in America, where to get the whole story you should listen to the 700 club, listen to the Christian points of view, like Jerry Falwell, the Vets point of view, to see who is the more honorable man, the media to their credits has incorrectly presented GWB as a liar, when DAn RAther was the one found to be lying to the American people, truly GWB must be a quite honorable man, when the media starts presenting unfair journalism in respect to GWB military records, when they should be focusing on the bigger picture (both candidates), and have honesty in journalism, this is the reason you need to watch Fox News, the 700 club, Jerry Falwell, to fill in the bigger picture, and listen to talk radio, before taking RAZD seriously, because you wouldn't want a man as president that that wasn't honest, but GWB is the statesman, and the most honorable man (thats why the liberal media doesn't conservatives), what the media is trying to do is portray GWB as a liar, likely because they the media was caught with their pants down, DAn RAther, etc... Dan Rather should of investigated his sources, before presenting it as fact, the media did this same kind of thing all the time, like when they called the Gore the winner before all the facts were in, the people had not all voted, this was another example of media bias trying to sway the voting in Florida so people would say, why go vote if Gore has been declared the winner, etc...), as we all know GWB won both the electro college and the popular vote in Florida, and the media was quite dishonest to call the election before the republican counties in northern Florida had all voted.

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