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Author Topic:   Why is the President Lying ... again?
Dan Carroll
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Message 14 of 103 (147188)
10-04-2004 12:34 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by Chiroptera
10-04-2004 12:28 PM


Re: Reading abilities
Wait, that's not part of the liberal agenda?
This sucks. I thought the whole point of being liberal in the 21st century was to forcibly turn everybody gay. Sort of like in the sixties, when Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King Jr. did a little genetic tinkering, and made everybody black. Or in the twenties, when the suffragettes legally enforced sex changes, and made everybody into women.
I tell you, the left has lost its way.

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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Dan Carroll
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Message 60 of 103 (147486)
10-05-2004 12:11 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Dr Jack
10-05-2004 12:07 PM


Re: who needs mental testing?
I don't care that politicians lie; everybody lies - I lie, you lie, your mother's brother lies, your boss lies, your friends lie and all your co-workers lie.
You know, last week, I told a friend of mine that I was just staying home on Friday night. Instead, I went to a bar with my girlfriend. I wanted a private night out with her, and I knew he'd take it personal if I told him the truth.
As a direct result of my lie, thousands of people died in the middle east. This is because the consequences of my lies are exactly the same as those of a politician. Therefore, they should be held to exactly the same standards.

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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Dan Carroll
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Message 63 of 103 (147495)
10-05-2004 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Dr Jack
10-05-2004 12:14 PM


Re: who needs mental testing?
Which would you rather have: a competent politician who lies, or an incompetent politician who always tells the truth?
How is that question relevant? What we have is none of the above: an incompetent politician who lies.
Actually, thinking about it, I don't think "always tells the truth" is a positive trait in a politician - these people do have to function as diplomats after all.
There's a difference between "plays it straight with the American people" and "offers up information willy-nilly and needlessly."

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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Dan Carroll
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Message 64 of 103 (147496)
10-05-2004 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by crashfrog
10-05-2004 12:17 PM


Re: A catharsis
I nodded like I was listening to something my wife was saying yesterday, but really I was reading web comics.
As a direct result of my lie, thousands of people died in the middle east.
Great. Now I have an image in my head of Gabe and Tycho with shotguns, mowing down Iraqis left and right, and that image will haunt me forever.

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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Dan Carroll
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Message 70 of 103 (147514)
10-05-2004 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 68 by Dr Jack
10-05-2004 12:31 PM


Re: who needs mental testing?
Lying is a trivial side issue; failing to competently run a country is not.
I disagree. (With the first half of the statement.) When a lie is the way in which a president is able to run a nation incompetently, then the lie becomes very important.
For instance, had Bush been totally straight with the American people about the reasons for the war in Iraq, then he would have a pretty good case now for saying, "Look, the war may have been a mistake, but the fact of it is that I had an overwhelming mandate from the people on this one. The public supported the war."
But the reasons for war were based on lies. Therefore, the public was duped into supporting a bullshit war. To keep Bush from trying to spin things into a public-mandate pile of crap, it's more than worthwhile to call him out and smack him down for his lies.

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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Dan Carroll
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Message 73 of 103 (147522)
10-05-2004 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by johnfolton
10-05-2004 1:02 PM


GWB has only been upfront with the American People.
Where's all that uranium from Niger, then?
GWB won both the electro college
The Electro college? COOL!
This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 10-05-2004 12:08 PM

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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