Gorilla strength

don't underestimate human strength. The world record for human bench press is right now about 1100 pounds, I am weight lifter myself and 1100 pounds is ridiculous. I think a gorilla trying to lift this amounts of weight would be crushed under it first time trying to lift it. Other animals don't have the body structures to lift this much amount. Also there are Karate masters such as Mas Oyama who is known to fight angry bulls and kill it bare handed. There are also stories of ancient greek olympians who are known to be so strong that they could keep a chariot from moving while a horse is trying to pull it. Im sure you have heard of mother who had her child crushed under a truck, and she lifted the truck off her child. Humans also have intelligence that makes us top of the food chain and also innate muscular ability to train and lift crazy amounts of weight. A human sword master trained to fight animals I think would have chance with any animal(ancient gladiators). Also with mere two thin sticks, we can kill animals much largers (bow and arrow LOL).examples of some of human lifts although not the best current records
Page Not Found - WannabeBig.comMas Oyama info
http://www.fightingmaster.com/masters/oyama/

"According to pit bull lore, they have been matched against virtually every other dog breed not to mention lions, tigers, and bears. More often than not the pit bull wins. Yes, this has a lot to do with the breed's strength and stamina but it's also because, at around 60 pounds, pit bulls are exactly the right size."wow that dont sound right, i cant picture a 60 pound pitbull beating 400 pound tiger...

And also, although I haven't seen reports of humans fighting tigers or gorillas bare handed, but what if someone like Mas Oyama who is known to kill angry bulls bare handed, or Mike Tyson during his prime without gloves manage to land a strike on the chin or spine of these animals, they would feel it, or possibly kill them. Mas Oyama can break layers of bricks like butter with his chops(I seen clips of it) and Mike Tyson supposely have almost thousand pound of pressure per punch during his prime. Of course these animals has alot higher chances of winning, but these above men are highly trained and have higher pinpoint accuracy with their fists than gorillas and it seems to me humans beating these animals are not impossible. What if they trained to fight against dumb animals using higher intelligences and wits, although morally, ethically, and most of all too dangerous (such as skinny brazillian jusitsu guy beating Bob Sapp, 350 pound roidhead in pride using submissions. Bob Sapp being an example of a gorilla). Then again nothing stopped Mas Oyama from fighting bulls. There are too many moral and ethical issues such as animal protection movements and such for true fighters to try out such feats. I have read an article years ago of some human males who are able to kill wolves barehanded, when he was backed into the corner and had no choice but to fight.Edited by jakethesnake6901, : No reason given.

I would also like to see someone like Angus Macaskill with training fight a Gorilla. With his strength and size, I think he would definitely have high chance of winning.

That was an interesting video, but that fat guy wasn't a good representative of a strong human. He does not have much muscle, he is just fat. Sumo wrestlers are considered a joke in world of mixed martial arts and in strong men contests. Mariusz Pudzianowski, 3 time world strongest man would of beaten that Orangutan. He is 300+ pounds and very little fat. Humans are in same category as Gorillas and Chimps under same family Hominidae. Which means we are part of the Great Apes. The reason us humans seems alot weaker than Gorillas and Chimps are because for hundreds of generations, we got used to secure living from the wild. However, humans have just as much muscle mass as chimps or more. We just have to bring that potential out. We just have to bring it out from training. Me myself are avid weight lifter, and mixed martial artist. I am close to 200 pounds with little fat, and also agile and fast. I personally think I can take out a single male chimp with my wits and fighting technique. I dont think it'd be that hard to outwit a chimp especially when Im used to sparring against smarter, more witty humans. Im not saying I would definitely win, Im saying I have good chance of winning.Mariusz Pudzianowski official site
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Gorilla does not have strength of 8 strong men. At least the strong men I know and seen. Maybe it is strong as 8 desk jockies who never worked out in their life. I can bench press close to 300 pounds, and many guys at my gym could do 500+. Does this mean a gorilla can bench press 4000pounds? There are several men in the wrold who can bench excess of 1000 pounds. Does this mean a gorilla can press 8000 pounds? The thick iron barbell starts to bend at about 500-600 pounds when pressing. Which means a gorilla can bend the gym barbell with his arms and make it into a pretzel without much effort. It would mean a gorilla is stronger than the terminator. I dont think so. There are over hundred muscles in human and gorilla body and gorilla has only certain type of them well developed. Mostly pulling muscles. Humans however have potential to have great pushing muscles, ie (punching) considering out body structure. Thats why a human punch could kill other humans, and other animals. A bare handed grown man's punch could shatter skulls. A gorilla cannot squat thousand pounds, yet many strongmen in the world could. And earlier post you said human wouldn't stand a chance against gorilla? Check his article out, its interesting. It supports my above idea.Human Vs Animal
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I bet before Mas Oyama, people said a man can never kill a bull bare handed. I bet before guys like Gene Rycelak, people said a man can never bench press over 1000 pounds. I bet before the wright brothers people said humans can never fly. Mas Oyama wasn't naturally freakishly strong. He was considered average during his early life, he got the way he is through training. Nature gifted us with big brain and ability to learn, train and adopt. Humans can do almost anything in my opinion. I bet if people got paid millions of dollars to fight animals bare handed like in baseball, football or boxing, you'll start seeing a whole league of animal fighters. Animals are dumb, they are programmed to attack in single or only few manners. They can't learn to do a corkscrew blow which temporily stops the opponent's heart. They can't learn to do a back of the head karate chop that can remove eye balls from the socket. They can't learn to do a Muay Thai flying elbow which cracks coconuts and skulls. All animals have vital parts in their body which can be penetrated with little effort. Animals can't learn to study other animal's anatomy to be more effective predator, otherwise the nature would be unbalanced. Humans are the only exception from nature, and we can unbalance even the nature. Humans can adopt to anything, just as we adopted to live in any parts of the world such as antarctica where most animals can't live, and even go to space. Also check out my two above posts in case you missed it.Edited by jakethesnake6901, : No reason given.Edited by jakethesnake6901, : No reason given.Edited by jakethesnake6901, : No reason given.

That Karate chimp is a joke. It does not know karate, it was just trained to mimic its master. It is not practical at all. That chimp doing Karate is like saying a Chimp that paints is same as DaVinci.

"I agree but from what I've read here a lot of people think otherwise. They see humans as just another animal and not something specially created."We may not be specially created but we have something that nature was not able to balance. I mean we got nuclear weapons that can destroy the entire planet. We can sap the very earth of its resources which we are doing already lol. There are 6 billion humans on earth and due to that, countless other species are now extinct. Hard to believe nature meant to create creatures that are possible to do above things. Maybe earth has a life cycle and creating smart animals like us is its way of ending that cycle LOL.

Yes I seen that post about gorillas, and frankly its half-assed. The person that posted it probably has no idea about muscles, or physics. And to bench press 4000-8000 pounds your bone must be strong as titanium, even pure iron of gorilla's arm bone width would bend (or snap if its steel)at that much weight. Primate lifting 4tons? get real.
The guys you post as human examples are retards, seriously, and those video clips you keeping showing are examples of retarded humans just like the rest of that webpage's clips. Also like I said in previous posts they have no real training what so ever. That hunter didn't even attempt to fight the deer(the guys I know woulda laid that deer flat. shatter its face), the sumo guy is not that strong, not have half strong as some of the world strongest men competitors. And as for "Akebono", like I said he is joke in the Mixed Martial Arts and Strong men world. Only thing he has is his weight. I seen clips of him fighting and he hasn't lasted even win once against people not even his half weight. See his mixed martial arts record at Akebono - Wikipedia
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ok once, against even bigger scrub...
he was still half his weight

It is obvious that gorillas are alot tougher and stronger than "average humans".
Im just saying a well trained human, in both strength and skills could beat a gorilla in one on one fight, just as Oyama has beaten angry bulls alot stronger than him. Gorillas are far stronger, but just as World Strongest Men cannot beat smaller Mixed Martial Arts experts, just as Akebono gets owned in K1, a smarter human could outwit a gorilla. As for gorilla's skull, I read that although it is thicker than human skulls, it is not greatly different. They belong to same animal family Hominidae as humans, chimps, and orangs which consistutes a similar structures.These are quotes from an article I read:"A gorilla has a skull which closely resembles the skull of a man. However, encased in that skull is a small brain, smaller than that of a dog. A gorilla has no reasoning process worthy of the name. Suppose he was fighting Joe Louis. What would he make of that amazing fast left jab? It would bewilder him considerably. It has bewildered every human opponent (except Max Schmeling) Louis has ever fought. A gorilla doesn't know pain, they say. Suppose Louis or Schmeling or any of the first ten ranking heavyweights were to land a punch let's say on Gargantua's Adam's Apple. Then Gargantua would know pain. Were you ever hit on the Adam's Apple? It isn't fun. Jack Dempsey hit me there when we boxed in Philadelphia and I felt as though I were swallowing whole pineapples for a week after. Martin Johnson told me a well-placed punch on the jaw would down the average large gorilla.""'A gorilla is a sluggish thinker,' Martin Johnson said. 'He only knows one attack. He goes after something and grabs it with his hands and then hugs it to his breast, crushing the life out of it when possible.'""And speaking of unprotected solar plexuses, I can remember seeing in the American Vaudeville Theatre at 42nd Street and Eighth Avenue some years ago a washed-up middleweight fighter named Mike Farrell from the Westside Athletic Club put the gloves on with a trained polar bear at the invitation of the trainer from the stage. The bear had been used to sticking out one of its gloved fore-paws and scaring the silly men who would accept the invitation to box with the bear as a lark. Mike Farrell had an Irish sense of humor. When the bear stuck out his paw, Mike simply slipped inside and with both hands played the most resounding rat-a-tat on the unsuspecting bear's midsection. The bear dropped on all fours and ran off the stage, letting out the most terrifying shrieks. The trainer tried to brain Mike with a chair, the only weapon he could reach, for trying to kill his breadwinner.Gargantua is a big boy but a Dempsey left hook landing on his stomach might figuratively tear the poor animal in two and leave him paralyzed on the canvas or jungle. He didn't spend years of doing bending and mat exercises. A man has twenty-four ribs. Your encyclopedia will tell you that a gorilla has but thirteen. Between the ribs, below the breastbone, there are nerve centers. If they are shocked the shock travels to the spine temporarily causing paralysis. The ribs and well developed muscles between the ribs protect these nerve centers. Twenty-four ribs are much more protection than thirteen."If you interested in the whole article:
http://www.genetunney.org/gorilla.html

No I agree with you in that humans have just about 100% chance of losing to animals such as elephants, hippos, and grizzlies. My argument was, and has been that human being a part of the great apes has chance to win against other great apes bare-handed using wits and fighting techniques utilitizing higher intelligence. I also said these individuals would be extremely highly trained both mentally and physically in especially fighting certain apes (ie. gorilla). And also only "a very gifted few". I still believe it is possible after seeing Mas Oyama in videos and seeing some of die hards out there. One of examples I used was how 350 pound roid head with a six pack, Bob Sapp lost to a 200 pound Mirko CroCop when he got kicked in the liver. And as for elephants, hippos, rhinos, grizzlies, I agree with you, no chance. This Lude guy however thinks there is no way a human can beat a gorilla, not even a slight chance. I know there are people who agrees with him, but I know people who agrees with me in that humans do have a chance provided that person is gifted and highly trained. Like I said before I believe if people got paid 28 million dollars a year(ie. Alex Rodrigquez) to fight animals, you would see a legion of animal fighters. The article I posted before was just to support that people do concur with me. Is it that far fetched to say that some humans have a chance against a average gorilla when some humans can out bench press a average gorilla? (ie. record of 1100pound bench press). And no Im not retarded, I have a bachelor of science degree in computer science and scored 145 in a IQ test. Edited by jakethesnake6901, : No reason given.Edited by jakethesnake6901, : No reason given.Edited by jakethesnake6901, : No reason given.Edited by jakethesnake6901, : No reason given.