Gorilla strength

Has there been any threads on the infamous lion vs. tiger question or interspecies conflict? ;o

I went to AllExperts.com, checked out this section that deals with Wildlife called the Interspecies conflict section. One of the "experts" said that tigers have the strength of 12 - 15 men.I don't know much about strength, but especially since there have been no studies on tiger strength, isn't it incorrect to say "tigers have the strength of 12-15 men" or "a bear is overall stronger than a tiger". Surely, you must define the field of strength. Like a tiger has nowhere near the swatting power of the bear, but the bear has nowhere near the jumping capacity of the tiger.Can anyone here specialising in strength, physiology(there have been a few erudite comments on this, like RAZD and psahafgi's posts) tell me about judging and comparing the strength of animals. Is it incorrect to say the tiger has the strength of 12-15 men?Edited by Earendil, : No reason given.Edited by Earendil, : No reason given.

A tiger can drag a horse twenty meters but it can't lift I think even a 100lbs? So it is inaccurate and nebelous to say that a tiger is overall stronger than a human.

Humanity, I think you're jumping to conslusions here. I said "So it is inaccurate and nebelous to say that a tiger is overall stronger than a human.". Which makes perfect sense because it can't lift more than a human being, it isn't built to do so."You can’t compare two different creatures its simple comparing different things." - This is what I've been stressing in my last two posts."So don’t say a lion or a tiger isn’t stronger as a human generally." - I am saying this, can a tiger lift more than a human? No, so it isn't stronger GENERALLY or OVERALL. A tiger would destroy a human in a dragging contest. I won't get into the "a tiger would destroy a human in a fight or a human would destroy a tiger in a fight" ad nauseam."Its true that they can’t lift weight but how??? As there body is not in the right shape for this." - Our bodies aren't built for movements like dragging or flying or slithering."So therefore its also not correct to say they aren’t stronger as human. you mess with them you will see and do you think it would help you that they aren’t as able of weight lifting like us?" - We're talking about strength. Not fighting.

"You see its a discussions which hardly comes to a result" - This is what i've been stressing my last three posts, until some scientist specialising in physiology conducts research on this topic. But there are more dire questions in need of answers than this, with the tiger being so endangered."hmmh true but that comes to an interesting question of mine. If that meanings are so different anyway and not to say the tiger isn’t stronger why the tiger than will win the fight?" - This question can be easily answered, a human can lift more and perhaps KICK with more force(although I doubt a humans lower body is as strong as a tigers forequarters) ergo a tiger cannot be overall stronger than a human.'Than I want to say now it isn’t to say either after the conclusions a tiger 12x stronger than average man and so just 2x times stronger than the World Strongest Man. Because from the whole body and whole force the world strongest men also aren’t 5 or 6x stronger as the average men. They are that stronger in there divisions thats clear and would kick any normal mans ass. But not from the body generall either its about there training.' - Neither are tigers 12 times stronger than an average man. I heard of story where a tiger dragged a gaur 13 feet(I think), later 13 men attempted to do so but failed. It is correct to say that perhaps tigers has dragging capacity of 13-15 men or whatever. But is it certainly not 12 times stronger overall than an average man."You see towards to many issues but no solutions. Like i said it would be better you contact one of the people at this site you read this and ask them how they conclude." - I'm not proposing any solutions, I'm not a scientist. I asked in another post for someone to enlighten. I think its already concluded.

"And its probably also the tiger forequarters being that strong allowing it to drag prey so far and therefore like you said superior in a fight." - I didn't say anything about a fight. I find it quite childish when people compare a human and animal X's fighting ability."That with the lifting is impossible for a tiger as it doesn’t stand for a long time at his two legs like us human and at four legs its DIFFICULT. And if it would stand all the time at two legs like us its still the shape of the hands which doesn’t make it possible to lift something. But we wouldn’t know what a tiger would be able to lift is the hands also would be shaped like ours with the same possibility of movement and if it would walk upward. And so you may not forget the tiger has just its mouth where it is able to lift something up and hold its clear that it can’t be succesful so.
Think about if you go down at your knees don’t use your arms and want to lift something with your mout you will also not be able to lift the same weight as you lift with your hands when you are up. " - Yes, a tiger isn't built for lifting and a human isn't built for dragging, haven't we gone through this already?"so you are not a scientist but you seem to be interested and like animals as you posted a lion picture at your profile and said its important to solve the question why the tiger is endangered." - Most people know full well why the tiger is endangered, partially because tigers hunted for the use of their body parts in traditional Asian medicines (TAM). Eg. The analgesic effect of tiger bone has been observed in laboratory animals with induced arthritis.

I said this(" Most people know full well why the tiger is endangered, partially because tigers hunted for the use of their body parts in traditional Asian medicines (TAM). Eg. The analgesic effect of tiger bone has been observed in laboratory animals with induced arthritis."). The illegal trade of tiger parts is partially responsible for the tigers endangerment.Overall as a species, the tiger is the most endangered cat. The most endangered tiger subspecies the South China tiger are numbered at only 26 individuals?