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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
The degeneration of sin is what human nature does when God lets us do as we please. Blaming it on God is just too too easy when it's really YOUR fault. Sin is ugly, and when God leaves us to our sins they get really really ugly indeed. Romans 1 is all about how people and society degenerate when they refuse to obey God. Guess what a major sign of that degeneration is? Homosexuality, hey? Well depends on what god you ask im sure there are some out there that endorse homosexuality why not believe in them they are as made up as yours. what you don't get is it does not matter what your god says society has decided so you either follow societies rules or get out, thats how the game works. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
what you don't get is it does not matter what your god says society has decided so you either follow societies rules or get out, thats how the game works. "Don't get" that? How odd since I've clearly acknowledged that this is the position I'm in. Of course I was born here and have lived here for 72 years and haven't the means to go anywhere else so although I might like to "get out," thanks to this very very recent diabolical turn in favor of a tiny minority against those of my majority, I'm afraid you're going to have to kill me to get me out. Work on it, I'm sure you can figure out how to pull it off. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
"Don't get" that? How odd since I've clearly acknowledged that this is the position I'm in. Of course I was born here and haven't the means to go anywhere else so although I might like to "get out" I'm afraid you're going to have to kill me to get me out. Work on it, I'm sure you can figure out how to pull it off. Yea well sad day for you im sure those Satanists who cant offer virgin sacrifices to lucifer because "they cant find any" and its illegal feel he same way as you do. Well you have other options too one being don't get gay married. And don't run a bakery with wedding cakes. You know like Muslims avoid being butchers so they don't have to come in contact with pork meat. Or work in specialized butcher shops with no pork (ie bakeries with no wedding cakes). ( a little history Christians smuggled stuff trough Muslim lands by covering them with pork meat no Muslim wanted to touch it to see if there is anything hidden.) Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You make me want to leave this entire evil world with your attitude. The sooner the better. I'm sure your avatar is a good likeness.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 311 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Faith writes: The worst versions of God's judgments are the increase in sin. Faith writes:
Blaming it on God is just too too easy.
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined:
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You make me want to leave this entire evil world with your attitude. The sooner the better. I'm sure your avatar is a good likeness. Well i agree with you on one point this world is evil but not because some countries allow gay marriages, no that's the good part of the world. What is evil is killing gays like they do in Africa, whats evil is mutilating little girls vaginas because of religion or any other reason, what's evil is that the top few pro cent own most of this world. what's evil is we know we are killing this planet and causing untold suffering to future generations via pollution and what we do about it is put bandages at best on those situations. Whats evil in this world is that in most countries criminals are punished and made harder criminals by the gruesome conditions instead of being rehabilitated. ...... there is plenty of evil in the world yes but homosexuals getting married is a bright shining light of hope and goodness. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I don't know the name of that fallacy but boy is it a stinker.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Sigh. It's human beings who increase the sin, God merely lets us alone. Sigh.
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Larni Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined:
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Not so. He sends calamity.
The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer. -Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53 The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286 Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Wow, that was a nice post Frako. I didn't think a "cheer" was enough.
Thanks.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 311 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Sigh. It's human beings who increase the sin, God merely lets us alone. Then in the first place, it's not God's judgment, and in the second place, it's not going to happen. Without divine intervention, hardly anyone's going to go on a murder spree because two lesbians get married in Pittsburgh, because, you know, why would they?
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frako Member (Idle past 333 days) Posts: 2932 From: slovenija Joined: |
I don't know the name of that fallacy but boy is it a stinker. Its not a fallacy you dont understand, you and me we have a different moral compass. When you ask me what is the gratest evil in this world right now. My radar wouldn't even register homosexual marriage. It would point to real evil or what i perceive as real evil, a real danger to our global society. Attorcoties committed every day in the name of religion, in the name of greed, and in the name of power.... While yours would point ot gays and abortions. And the sad day for you part is most of western society thinks the same way everywhere gay marriage has been legalised and its good the more rights humanity has the better it is off. But the most insulting part about people like you is when you speak against different people. nuts like you have accused gay of being at fault for the freak weather i mean common get a grip with reality its global warming and its people like you stopping us from doing anything about it. Your biblical morality is leading humanity down the wrong path. And if humanity does not grow up and start treating everybody as equals and focus on real issues we will become just another failed species. Or as you would say in religious terms god has a plan but we are not in it. Christianity, One woman's lie about an affair that got seriously out of hand What are the Christians gonna do to me ..... Forgive me, good luck with that.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh but it is a fallacy because it falsely insinuates that I'm not concerned about all the evils in this world just because in this thread I'm talking about gay marriage. And you just continue to make false accusations in this post too.. The subject for me is violating God's Law, you turn it into something personal.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I know you don't understand how God's judgments work, I'm trying to explain it to you.
And am I misremembering or did you just ignore the fact that I said I do believe that remarriage after divorce is a sin and that would put me in a difficult position if asked to make a wedding cake for such a situation? I mean, you were sure I didn't believe that and you were wrong. You were of course also wrong about all the other laws you think Christians should obey because you don't understand the theology involved about how it's all been fulfilled in Christ. All the laws except the Moral Law were specific to the Jews, the food laws intended to teach them separation from the idolatrous Gentile nations, and most of the other laws teaching the nature of the Messiah to come. The Moral Law, however (The Ten Commandments and all the elaborations thereon in Exodus and Leviticus and Numbers and Deuteronomy) is universal for all mankind. Although Christians are saved from the consequences of that law in Christ too, it is God's law that runs the universe and we honor it. In fact one of the first things that happens when you become a Christian is that you love God's law. "O how I love thy law" says King David, and the Christian says Yes. So if secular law contradicts it a Christian must choose against the secular law. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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herebedragons Member (Idle past 885 days) Posts: 1517 From: Michigan Joined: |
The sad fact, frako, is that we Americans are quite sheltered from what goes on in the rest of the world. That gay marriage even makes it onto our radar as an atrocity is evidence of that. We are often completely unaware of the horrors that millions and millions of people in other parts of the world face on a daily basis.
I totally get what you are saying. God is pissed off because some gay couples, who love each other, want to enjoy the legal benefits of marriage but children facing war crimes doesn't bother him? Note that I think it does it bother him, I think God hates injustice. But to suggest that God is pissed at America simply because of gay marriage, like America is God's chosen nation who has gone astray, is just insensitive, naive and plain ignorant of the rest of the world.
Your biblical morality is leading humanity down the wrong path. Faith doesn't speak for all of us. HBDWhoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca "Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem. Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.
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