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Author Topic:   A Christian State.
ThingsChange
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Message 39 of 65 (303840)
04-13-2006 9:50 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by EZscience
04-12-2006 12:37 PM


Fundamentalist State not as bad as you think
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If there really was a Christian Fundamentalist State it would be little better than Taliban Rule.
I can't believe how you and other people see Christians as so evil.
If anything, they have been domesticated in America. In general, they are focused not on this world but in the next (their belief). The Bible even says to "render unto Caesar" or something like that, so that religious practice is kept separate from governing.
Having studied briefly with fundamentalist Christians, I can tell you that you folks are way off base in thinking it would be so bad, except for perhaps the education realm (IMO). It would not be as much fun to non-Christians, obviously.
I see that many folks on this thread are trying to take Bible verses and having fun with how that would be deployed/enforced. That's fun to you, but not really representative of what the state would be.
Here is what it would likely be, IMO:
1. Sexual businesses (such as topless bars, bath spas, internet porn, etc.) would be banned, or at least "suffocated" (example: cannot be located within 100 miles of a school or church or a public place)
2. Illegal drugs would be more suppressed and penalties stiffer, although there probably would be more preventative programs and help for people to break their habit.
3. Alcohol and bars would be more restricted, but not banned. There would be stronger consequences for drunks, though.
4. Some Sunday activites might be discouraged with laws, so that there would be more incentive to go to church. (in my case, I would take the opportunity to sleep late)
5. TV and movies would be restricted more.
6. The Hollywood rich and corporate over-paid executives would probably be limited in compensation and taxed more heavily.
7. The strategy for helping the poor probably would shift towards more temporary welfare along with programs to help people get off their feet and support themselves (i.e. the old "teach a man to fish" philosophy)
8. Education would incorporate Creationism as the truth, and an ignorant portrayal of Evolution. Prayer would be re-introduced. Teachers would be given more power to discipline (I am not sure if spanking would be allowed, though).
9. Advancement in science would suffer indirectly (from uninspiring education and policy like banning stem cell research)
10. Gay rights would not be established, but gays would not be imprisoned.
11. The establishment of religion clause would be struck, so that "separation of church and state" would no longer be a legal issue.
12. Oh yes, I almost forgot, abortion would be outlawed.
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However, even if they could dominate all their secular opponents, they would probably end up killing each other over which 'true interpretation' of the Bible should be the basis for their legislation.
Good point, but the infighting would be peaceful, of course. The different views would amount to different political parties trying to get the power and influence.

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ThingsChange
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Message 42 of 65 (303951)
04-13-2006 3:01 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by EZscience
04-13-2006 1:32 PM


Re: The Christian State (according to TC)
quote:
Do you think the Taliban and Islam are evil? ... I would merely judge them as misguided, much like fundamentalist Xians.
No, I think your vision (that you seem to consider 'not so bad') is not so far off the mark, but it is a very scary one, indeed.
EZ,
I was just trying to bring some reality to the discussion on what it would more likely be, IMO.
The measure of my statement "not as bad as you might think" is: Would you rather live under Taliban or the Christian State (as I figured it would be)?
I know my answer would be Christian State.

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