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Dan Carroll
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Message 16 of 24 (59093)
10-02-2003 10:40 AM


Lousy Smarch weather.

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Parasomnium
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Message 17 of 24 (59098)
10-02-2003 11:20 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by Dan Carroll
10-02-2003 10:40 AM


Ach, what say you of a funeral, on a cold Extrember mourning?
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zephyr
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Message 18 of 24 (59118)
10-02-2003 1:56 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Buzsaw
10-01-2003 7:34 PM


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Erasing all the evidence which shows the Bible to be credible get's tough, doesn't it?
*snip*
Almost as tough as shoehorning the same invented motive into others' diverse actions and beliefs, ignoring their stated (and quite reasonable) intentions, and mocking the strawman you built... over... and over... and over again....

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NosyNed
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Message 19 of 24 (59122)
10-02-2003 2:19 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Wounded King
10-02-2003 5:08 AM


Agreed, King, but we need to tie to the year and the day. Those are the basic things I think you have to work around.
Does anyone suggest otherwise?
And another point:
I had assumed that everyone knows that the year 1 is "inspired" by the birth of Christ but is not the actual time by a few years. That in fact it hasn't been possible to pin that down with absolute certainty.

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Coragyps
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Message 20 of 24 (59123)
10-02-2003 2:21 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Buzsaw
10-02-2003 9:56 AM


Most folks have no problem with our present global calendar system. It's worked fine for centuries. Bibliofobicism seems to be the sole drive in this determination to revise anything and everything lending support to accredibility to this remarkable ancient book which has enlightend and blessed so many in the planet's finest cultures.
Buz, what are the names of the days of the week where you live? On which mythological system are those names based?

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NosyNed
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Message 21 of 24 (59125)
10-02-2003 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Buzsaw
10-02-2003 9:56 AM


You missed the intial point, Buz. Having the year 1 (and worse no year zero) in the middle of history was taken as a problem. I agree, a little that it is a nuisance and worth a change.
However, the size of the hassle of having centuries of material with old dates might mean that the advantage of a change is overwhelmed. Certainly if you understood the discussion you would not be suggesting a date for the year 0 furthere into historic times.

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Silent H
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Message 22 of 24 (59165)
10-02-2003 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Buzsaw
10-02-2003 9:56 AM


buzsaw writes:
Most folks have no problem with our present global calendar system. It's worked fine for centuries.
The Xtian calender is global like English is the current global language, and like French used to be. Things can change. Who knows. Maybe the Chinese will force their calendar on everyone else when eventually Chinese or Chinese-mixed races outnumber everyone else.
And it hasn't worked fine for centuries. It has been fixed a number of times to keep it alive.
buzsaw writes:
Bibliofobicism seems to be the sole drive in this determination to revise anything and everything lending support to accredibility to this remarkable ancient book
I told you why I opened this thread and it had nothing to do with bibliophobia. Not only did I point out that the current Xtian calendar isn't accurate to the life of Christ, I was practically advocating adoption of the Jewish calendar which is not against the Bible at all!
Christ didn't make our current calendar or call for it to be made. Neither did God. It certainly is not mentioned in the Bible.
The current calendar was made by a person inspired by Christ. That is it. As has been pointed out already, it also contains references to other pagan systems of belief. It's inaccuracies as a system have already been corrected a number of times before... by Xtians!
I have only raised the question of the current calendar's utility. Some people have treated it with humor and some with scepticism and that's cool. But the heavy handed bashing of motives isn't... especially when they aren't real.
Please get a sense of humor or proportion or how to be constructive in your criticism.
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holmes
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Rrhain
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Message 23 of 24 (59185)
10-02-2003 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Parasomnium
10-02-2003 10:34 AM


Parasomnium writes:
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Birthdays are always on the same weekday. So is every other date.
Oh, that's not nice. Always having your birthday on a Tuesday? They'd never get to have it on a weekend when everybody is available. And Halloween would disappear, there being no 31st of October anymore.
And what to do about the Fourth of July? That'd always be a Wednesday. Some companies would let you have the really long weekend, but others wouldn't. Same with Christmas.

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Parasomnium
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Message 24 of 24 (59204)
10-03-2003 5:50 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by Rrhain
10-02-2003 11:03 PM


Hi Rrhain,
Here in "Old Europe" we have the good sense to invite people in the weekend nearest to our birthday. Or the even better sense, when above a certain age, not to mention our birthday at all. (But that's only grumpy me.)
"Halloween would disappear", huuuuh, that's eerie! But wait: Halloween can still exist in the new calendar, it's on the 24th of November, a Tuesday. And it gets even eerier: every leap year it's on (lowers voice to whisper) Wednesday the 25th.
Of course, the greatest mystery of all would be how November 24th can be the eve of November 1st (All Saints' Day). What fun this new calendar is!
The Fourth of July? That's easy: move to France. They have Quartorze Juilet, which means The Fourteenth of July. It would always be on a Saturday. How France is going to cope with 250 odd millions of Americans is another story. (Though I guess it would rather be a matter of 250 millions of odd Americans.)
Christmas isn't a problem either. If we leave Christmas where it is in the 365 day year, the two days of Christmas we observe in Europe (do they have two days in America?) fall on Monday the 23rd and Tuesday the 24th of Extrember, in the new calendar. So, unless you work in a restaurant or any other business where they think it's a good idea to work on a holiday, you would have a very nice, very long weekend. And in a leap year you'd have to take only one day off to turn it into an even longer weekend.
I say let's go ahead with this new calendar right away. (Do you think Buz would come along if we changed the eighth month to "Aubuzzed"?)
"Most modern calendars mar the sweet simplicity of our lives by reminding us that each day that passes is the anniversary of some perfectly uninteresting event." - Oscar Wilde.
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