Muslims and Pederasty

I am delighted to have attracted the attention of so noble a creature.
Clearly, this is not a place to voice concern, have an opinion, learn.
Except, of course, the ones with loads of wind - enough to beat others to death with words.
I found the attached and thought to share it with those who are capable of thinking past their elated ego, self-worth.
One has but to be somewhat efficient in history to know that Islam has little to do with peace.
If you are a father, than visualize your son in sexual intercourse with your best friend?The plague on those who do not condemn the pedophile, regardless of where in the world he operates his vile appetite.-------------------------
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I don’t know how many of you remember the week-long celebration of the founding of the United Nations, that was held in New York City in 1998, but Kofi Anan, the Secretary General of the UN, in one of his speeches, when discussing religion, talked about a One World Religion, that would be under the control of the UN.In this speech. Anan said the following: I look forward to the day when the world will come together under a one world religion. All will be welcome, even Christians, but first, they must be willing to give up their belief that Jesus is the only way to heaven. If they don’t, they will have to be dealt with.
-------------------------------------------A Response to Pedophilia Condoned (Approved) By Islam & Dalai Lama With Roman Catholics, Greek Orthodox and OthersThe following is, as the title says ... a response to two articles posted at "apostle1.com" - - - "Pedophilia Condone (Approved) by Islam" & "Dalai Lama with Roman Catholics, Greek Orthodox and others".A DEFENSE OF CHRISTIANITYFor God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. (John 14:6)The two quotes above, from Holy Scripture, says it all. Does any more need to be said? Those who profess to be Christians, and that includes all of the various Protestant groups along with the Catholics, both the Roman and the Orthodox jurisdictions, should believe both of these verses, with every fiber of their being, since all Christian belief is based on what these verses tell us.What is happening to the Church (the Body of Christ) is truly disturbing, but what is even more disturbing is that so many of our Church hierarchs and leaders are behind the inevitable demise of Christianity as we know it. Even many of our political leaders, who claim to be Christian, are also, either knowingly or unknowingly, helping to eradicate Christianity from the public venue, under the guise of Political Correctness.When a Roman and/or Orthodox Catholic Priest invites Imams from the Islamic religion, Hindu Holy men, Wiccans (witches), nature worshipers, etc., to share the altar of their church, even, and especially if that church happens to be St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome, and the priest is the Roman Pope himself, to take part in a bastardized Mass and worship service, then if truth be known, this is nothing short of Desecration of a Holy church and a Holy altar. I believe in religious freedom and in respecting others beliefs, but not if it means the destruction of all that I hold holy, the Christian Faith!The silence of the faithful is deafening. Where are the believers? Why won’t they speak out? Perhaps they fear martyrdom, and I do not mean the evil and disgusting martyrdom of mass murder and suicide that Islam preaches. Fear not those who could take your life and destroy your body, but rather fear Him who can destroy your soul.I don’t know how many of you remember the week-long celebration of the founding of the United Nations, that was held in New York City in 1998, but Kofi Anan, the Secretary General of the UN, in one of his speeches, when discussing religion, talked about a One World Religion, that would be under the control of the UN.In this speech. Anan said the following: I look forward to the day when the world will come together under a one world religion. All will be welcome, even Christians, but first, they must be willing to give up their belief that Jesus is the only way to heaven. If they don’t, they will have to be dealt with.How dare this man make such a statement? But the sad thing was, not one Christian leader spoke out in defense of Christianity. This so-called one world religion which Kofi Anan and the rest of those who support the UN, would be a conglomeration of bits and pieces from every conceivable religious belief. It will have parts of Buddhism. Hinduism, Shintoism, Naturism, Witchcraft, Christianity, etc., all mixed together into an obscene, Satan inspired nightmare. Do you doubt this? Wake up, we are on our way there, just look at what took place in Mexico City, when the Dalai Lame spoke for forty minutes, before a crowd of over 1,000. There were representatives from just about every major religion in attendance, including even the Greek Orthodox.The Dalai Lama stated that: I am tremendously happy to share the altar of the old metropolitan Cathedral here in downtown Mexico City... The cathedral was opened to him by Mexico City’s Roman Catholic Jurisdiction's Archbishop, Norberto Rivera, who also spoke at the ceremony. You can read about it on the Apostle1.com web siteetcThis message has been edited by PecosGeorge, 12-03-2004 10:56 AM

I think you quote of Kofi Annan is a lie.Care to prove otherwise?Meanwhile please supply more identification of the
Tahrirolvasyleh, vol. 4 book. An ISBN number would be useful since it isn't clear it exists.This message has been edited by NosyNed, 12-03-2004 01:30 PM

Yeah, but in all fairness when the Dalai Lama says something as offensive and immoral as...I am tremendously happy to share the altar of the old metropolitan Cathedral here in downtown Mexico City.....isn't that enough to have you shaking in your boots? I suppose we are soon to hear that he gave some candy to Mexican children, proving that he's a pedophile.This message has been edited by AdminNosy, 12-03-2004 01:30 PM

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

Which is
-Arafat's personal life?
-Muslims?
-Pederasty?
-Homosexual aspect of pederasty?
-Pedophilic aspect of pederasty? I think it was best said here: I've not seen an attempt on your part to learn.From this latest post (very THINLY related to your OP) it would seem that you are concerned with both pedophilia AND homosexuality. However, your attempt to equate the two is misplaced and inaccurate. If you think I'm wrong then rebutt with a line of logic and support showing how they are related....actually you'd probably have to open a new thread....because I don't know how your opinion about either pedophilia or homosexuality is STRICTLY related to Arafat and/or Muslims in general.

The Kofi Annan quote is likely made up. Were it real it would have garnered a lot of attention, yet it appears at only a single place on the entire web: --Percy

I know. I found that and mailed the URL to the office of the secretary general.I'm hoping for a response. I'd rather see it directed at the source than back to me, but we'll see what happens.Perhaps a note to a journalist could stir up some trouble.Lies should not be left to fester ( I am going to assume this is a lie for the same reason you give for being suspicious).

No. Clearly this is not a place where free thinking individuals are going to just soak up your rank as if it were ambrosia. Do you really think we are all so stupid as to not see through to your purpose of propagating hatred. And in that same history we can find just as many examples of bastardization of Christianity that promote violence. People are going to find ways to kill in the name of God all the time but that does not make them representative of the true beliefs of a given religion.In fact you yourself are playing in that grey area that leads to the justification others have used for killing for the Lord. The only reason you would ever need to "kill for God" is if you feel like your religion is being attacked and you can demonize a particular group of people as the source. It all starts with hatred and Jesus never taught us to hate our fellow man.Ask yourself this. What is attacking Islam going to accomplish? Do you think that there might be followers of Islam on this board who might believe you and turn to Christ? Aren't we called to be a better example rather than a judge and hater?I honestly didn't believe you claimed to be Christian till I saw this last post of yours. How do you justify your condemnation of an entire people as something a Christian would do? Are you trying to be a good Christian or are you trying to protect your religion?Please don't confuse my passion on this subject to mean that I don't like you by the way. I just don't agree with the way you are acting especially since I feel that you are both wrong and missrepresenting the love of Christ.

By the way. Do you plan on providing evidence other than your biased hersay that Arafat was a pedophile? If not then will you please retract your allegation?

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When a Roman and/or Orthodox Catholic Priest invites Imams from the Islamic religion, Hindu Holy men, Wiccans (witches), nature worshipers, etc., to share the altar of their church, even, and especially if that church happens to be St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome, and the priest is the Roman Pope himself, to take part in a bastardized Mass and worship service, then if truth be known, this is nothing short of Desecration of a Holy church and a Holy altar. I believe in religious freedom and in respecting others beliefs, but not if it means the destruction of all that I hold holy, the Christian Faith!

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Tell me, PG, in your own words - how does this destroy the Christian faith? What about this action in particular is destructive? Do you think that it would attract those there to lose faith? Or perhaps you think it is an insult to Christianity for the "pagans" to even be there in the first place? If that's the case, would a Muslim accepting aid from a Christian missionary be destructive to the faith?

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The silence of the faithful is deafening. Where are the believers? Why won’t they speak out? Perhaps they fear martyrdom, and I do not mean the evil and disgusting martyrdom of mass murder and suicide that Islam preaches.

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...or perhaps they realize that reaching out to leaders of separate religions doesn't "destroy the faith"? And that those who assert it does are either exaggerating, weak of faith in the first place (if such an action is destructive to their faith), or simply foolish? And that reaching out to such men and treating them with respect is, in fact, a Christian way to act?

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How dare this man make such a statement? But the sad thing was, not one Christian leader spoke out in defense of Christianity.

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Well, it is rather unusual to speak out against something that didn't happen. But if that is the case, I'd like to speak out against President Bush's speech in which he supported the pre-emptive invasion of Kansas.If it did actually happen, then the fact that this is the only place it's documented should give you your answer - nobody spoke out against it because everybody else somehow seemed to miss it.

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This so-called one world religion which Kofi Anan and the rest of those who support the UN, would be a conglomeration of bits and pieces from every conceivable religious belief.

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I'm not quite sure what this is saying, as it isn't really a sentence (the dependent clause's subject doesn't have a verb), but I assume it means "...which Kofi Anan and the rest of those who support the UN propose/support..." If this is the case, what makes you think all those who support the UN support such a religion? Does supporting the United States mean supporting the current president? - or does supporting the president mean supporting his viewpoint on all issues?

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It will have parts of Buddhism. Hinduism, Shintoism, Naturism, Witchcraft, Christianity, etc., all mixed together into an obscene, Satan inspired nightmare. Do you doubt this? Wake up, we are on our way there, just look at what took place in Mexico City, when the Dalai Lame spoke for forty minutes, before a crowd of over 1,000. There were representatives from just about every major religion in attendance, including even the Greek Orthodox.

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The Dalai Lama stated that: I am tremendously happy to share the altar of the old metropolitan Cathedral here in downtown Mexico City...

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Um... non sequitur? The Dalai Lama spoke at a cathedral before a crowd of mixed religious backgrounds, therefore a "one world religion" is on the horizon? This "example" doesn't have anything to do with the writer's assertion that "we are on our way there".

Ned I noticed that my previous post says that you edited it, but for the life of me I can't figure out what you changed. Just interested in what I had wrong.

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holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

I'd consider leaving that out to be a fairly serious error when editing in Admin mode on someone else's post.However, I do it rarely enough that I'm about 96% sure I remember what I did.You messed up the qs /qs pair.

Jazzns asked PecosGeorge: Jazzns,I'm old, suspicious, and pessimistic. If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck I pretty much expect that it's only capable of quacking like a duck.Pecos is behaving like a troll or a crank. He doesn't have evidence and he won't retract, all he has is more emotions and wild irrational accusations based on his hatreds and obsessions. As they say on usenet, "Dont' feed the trolls". It only encourages them. I pretty much only expect PG in response to anything you or anyone posts to say QUACK, QUACK, QUACKQUACK, in other words just more of the same over and over until everyone gets tired of it and ignores him and he moves on and finds some other place to create a stir. Trolls and quacks are so predictable and tiresome.lfen

Now Ned, I assume you have heard of Napoleon? To whom is credited the quote that history is a set of lies everyone agrees upon.If you think that you will be told the truth by that source, your naivete exceeds mine, and I 'fess up to naivete. What could possibly be more corrupt than the United Nations, with Annan and his misuse of millions of dollars taking center stage. Or perhaps you think he didn't do it, and there is no fire where that smoke is?However, and whilst you wait, I have a little job for you. Find and describe in your words, more than 25 if you wish.......the meaning and function of hijras, their religion, nationality, and anything else you wish to include. And please don't be boring.Thank you.

We'll have to see what information is available.You seem to be suggesting that if Annan did make that statement that all the new media would ignore it. Even though it is probably inflamatory enough to sell papers.As for the other, I'm not all that interested. You haven't explained why it is pertinant or on topic here.

Those who kill for the Lord are under no injunction to do so aside from purposeful commands in the OT. Read it and you will learn why that was so.Islam on the other hand, is a religion of the sword, to conquer by the sword. It is death and torture and shame and its purpose is to subjugate the world and its inhabitants by any means. Deny it, and I'll bring you the words of the prophet of doom, in his own words.Why don't you ask any muslim what he is prepared to do for his religion? Asked to pick up the sword against you, an infidel, would he?And no, Christ does not and will not ask me to do the same. Vengeance is mine, says the Lord, I will repay. It just means he knows the time and way, and I do not, so it behooves me to stay out of his business.
Those who kill in his name, feel compelled to kill for God (?????) do so at their own peril.As for hating muslims? Don't put words in my mouth. You know very well that there is a difference between hating the sin and hating the sinner. Islam does not have my well-being in mind, not yours, not that of any infidel - INFIDEL - get it? Islam cannot live and let live.
I condemn the teachings of Islam as not conducive to peace, not conducive to the well-being of the people who suffer under its yoke. The barbarisms performed on its innocents are revolting, women and children and to a lesser degree also the men who, always the perpetrators, are also the victims.As for your last paragraph? Geez, man, can you afford it?

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"Let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit!"
2 Cor. 7:1