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Message 9 of 318 (444404)
12-29-2007 9:52 AM 		Reply to: Message 6 by Buzsaw
12-28-2007 11:22 PM

Why Creationism is bankrupt.
One big reason that Creationism is bankrupt is shown in your statement that "OTOH The more educated and intelligent creationsists tend to go where their POV prevails and where they have more freedom to speak their mind in the science fora."
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The way you learn is by having what you know challenged. Going where your point of view prevails is neither intelligent nor is it a way to become educated.
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Message 18 of 318 (444517)
12-29-2007 6:50 PM 		Reply to: Message 17 by Buzsaw
12-29-2007 6:41 PM

Re: Why Creationism is bankrupt.
Why Buz, do you think I don't get challenged here? And what makes you think I do not also visit other boards? Do you expect anyone to take that as anything other than another of your unsupportable assertions?
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Just for your information though, let me tell you what happens at many Creationist and Christian boards. Unlike here, where you are allowed to post freely, the Creationist and Christian boards cannot stand questioning and critical thinking, and so they ban anyone that is not a member of the Christian Communion of Bobbleheads.
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jar
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Message 22 of 318 (444528)
12-29-2007 7:21 PM 		Reply to: Message 21 by Buzsaw
12-29-2007 7:16 PM

Re: Getting Challenged
1. According to your own statement you don't get challenged on your own ideological turf.
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No Buz, according to YOUR statement.
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2. How can you possibly engage in other fora when you're hyperactive somewhere close to 24/7 here? Do you have a keyboard on the breakfast and dinner table or do you actually leave it and take time out for meals?
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I work on a computer.
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The facts though is that my positions are quite often challenged. The difference is that EvC allows challenge while the Christian forums seem to fear it. That is what drives the avoidance schools and the home schooling trend.
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12-29-2007 7:57 PM 		Reply to: Message 25 by Buzsaw
12-29-2007 7:48 PM

Re: Getting Challenged
The following quote is yours; not mine. The implication as per your statement below is to be challenged and learn by going where your POV is not prevalent.
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Yes. And that is what is so great about EvC. I do get challenged and learn something new every single day. I welcome and embrace challenge, I do not shy away from it or try to limit it.
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That is why EvC is so different than the Creationist boards like Terry's. Here challenge is not just allowed, it is encouraged.
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Look at how many times I've encouraged you to actually support your assertions.
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12-31-2007 10:09 AM 		Reply to: Message 37 by tesla
12-31-2007 12:19 AM

Re: Postulating Poster Patterns
it is equally frustrating when scientist will admit that their science is tentative, but will argue it as if it is not.
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I'm sorry but that makes no sense what so ever.
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01-21-2008 7:26 PM 		Reply to: Message 127 by purpledawn
01-21-2008 6:46 PM

On questions
Unfortunately, since this is a debate board and opposition is the name of the game, it is difficult to just be inquisitive without being pummeled.
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I really think that is wrong. If someone is inquisitive, that is they actually ask questions, I think they usually find many folk here more than willing to try to provide an answer.
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Where the pummeling usually seems to happen is when folk come here thinking they actually have the answers already.
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01-22-2008 10:51 PM 		Reply to: Message 167 by NosyNed
01-22-2008 9:56 PM

Re: My misconceptions
Absolutely. We are only learning when we correct misconceptions.
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01-23-2008 11:29 AM 		Reply to: Message 182 by pelican
01-23-2008 9:31 AM

First step.
The first step to take before posting something like the message I am replying to is to actually read and make sure that you fully comprehend the post YOU are replying to. That is a very important step that many folk seem to neglect and skip over.
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Why did you say absolutely to this question when you don't have a clue what your misconceptions are? Do you think you have misconceptions or not?
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This is a great example.
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Say what?
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I said "Absolutely." Note the period following the word absolutely. That short sentence referred to my desire to have any of my misconceptions challenged and corrected.
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Of course I do not have a clue what all of my misconceptions are, I do know that I have many in many fields; there is so much I do not know and very likely misunderstand about cosmology, biology, physics, literature, history, theology, soccer, flavors of ice cream, the nature of love, relationships, numerology, UFOs, Big Foot, and why people chew gum. Possibly there are even other areas where I have many misconceptions.
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But the term misconception also includes the concept that I am unaware of the errors, since if I was aware of them I would change that particular held belief.
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There exists a body of my current and past conceptions in the form of posts here at EvC and other locations.
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If someone should find within that body of conceptions some that are wrong, then by all means I would hope that the finder would point them out to me and make their best possible case in support of their point of view.
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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Message 227 of 318 (450867)
01-24-2008 1:17 PM 		Reply to: Message 213 by pelican
01-24-2008 8:53 AM

Re: First step.
Exactly and yet the evolutionists point out that creationists beliefs are in fact misconceptions when they are not. They are strongly held beliefs.
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Sorry but a strongly held belief that is totally false is a misconception.
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01-24-2008 6:39 PM 		Reply to: Message 231 by pelican
01-24-2008 6:27 PM

Re: First step.
You test using Reason, Logic and Reality.
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