NEWS FLASH:The 16 Year Plan.

WorldDailyNetReport: By Dee-Marie Urban 01.13.08, 9:45 AM ET --- In an unprecedented move, Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama have announced an end to their independent campaigns. Instead they have announced that they will join forces to present a ticket based on long term planning for the future of America. The plan dubbed "America Reborn" will see Senator Clinton and Senator Obama alternate as Lead Project America Mentor, serving as President for four years and then standing for Vice President for the next four."This for the first time since FDR will place one team of Project Managers guiding the country with a view to long term goals and true security for every American. No longer will US Policy be short term "watch the Quarterly Reports" in Nature. We want to address the real security issues, assuring every American has access to Health Care, freedom from poverty, safety in their old age and a hope for the future."Senator Clinton will serve the first term as President and has agreed to stand as Vice-President during the 2012 election, Clinton to stand as President in the 2016 election and Obama to stand for President during the final Quadrannual election./more to follow/

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The US election race is getting a fair bit of coverage over here. Much more so than elections in other European countries for example.
A very obvious (and often stated) conclusion is that it is a real shame that the first female and the first black presidential candidates should be opposing each other.The scenario you quote sounds like deeply fanciful thinking on the part of delusional pundits but to my mind would be quite a good idea in practice.
Apart from virtually ensuring both the first female and black presidents it would (with any luck) kill off the republicans for a political generation.It won't happen but I wish it would.

We both know that american politics doesn't work that way.It may have been possible back in the days of the political machines that used back room politics to decide who was going to run (Daily in chicago etc), but that has been broken since Johnson in the democrats and since schwubbia in the republicans (with the evangelicals demanding more than the table scraps thrown by the party).The way I see it is that what we saw in New Hampshire was old voters basing their votes on residual bigotry:... when they got in the booth, those that professed to be color blind outside the booth voted against Obama's color (with the rationalization that he would not be electable in the racist south, if they needed one) ...... and when they looked at Hillary, those that profess to be equal rights supporters outside the booth voted for Bill (with the rationalization that he would run things) ...And this residual bigotry was sufficient to swing the vote to Hillary.It is a strange world when bigotry makes Hillary a more electable candidate because she is still married to Bill (although it will lead to inevitable jokes about who "wears the pants ... we know Bill doesn't ... ").Now, on the rational side, if we want to talk about a "16 year plan" the first thing to do is get in the white house with an electable team. Hillary and Obama would have too many negatives, both in the same areas.Obama may be able to combine with Edwards for a good product, both selling "change" to the status quo and taking advantage of Edwards appeal in the south.For Hillary the southern democrats will vote for Bill (believe me I have heard it said) so she needs to consolidate another area, and I see going with Gov Richardson for the western\outsider\immigrant vote or Russ Feingold for the independent\anti-war vote.Once that has come to pass, the next step is to build experience and expertise, and I would suggest Hillary appoint Obama as secretary of state to make him a better candidate in 2016.We need to think beyond 4 years and on how to build better presidential candidates.I had once thought that the best thing for the democratic party would be for Clinton to have swapped places with Gore when the impeachment brouhaha started, thus being able to concentrate on his defense, still provide advice to Al, but take the ethical high road of stepping aside until the legal issue was resolved. This would have given Gore an inside for the next election.Enjoy.Edited by RAZD, : independent

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why? it's a primary. why shouldn't they run against each other just like every other candidate in every other primary? and she's not the first woman candidate.

Jar? Is this an actual news story? I don't see it on TV? Maybe Oprah knows about it!

Did you check WorldDailyNetReport?What kind of TV do you have?Do you have channel 78.3?What is your TimeZone?

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Is this even possible? Isn't too early to tell?Oh, I just realized it's a spoof. Good one.Edited by Taz, : No reason given.

Well it is already tomorrow somewhere.

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Whoah. Calm down. I never said that they 'shouldn't' in the sense that it was wrong somehow. Just that it is a shame that it is the the first time that candidates with a realistic chance of the presidency from two different obviously under represented groups (in historical presidential terms) should be simultaneously trying to make that breakthrough.
The first female president would be a significant landmark as wouldthe first black president. The likelihood of either has become a competition between the two.
Who was the fist woman candidate and has any woman ever had a real chance at winning previously?Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.

why? it's not surprising. women and blacks have kind of always been competing for representation. women were very close to getting the vote in the late 1800s and they gave it to blacks instead. great that they got it, sucks we didn't get it too. of course, they didn't really get the vote yet. that's how it goes. i think it's great that they're going for it at the same time. it should be even more apparent whether we're ready for this. and by this i mean to vote for people based on their qualifications and policy. of course, we don't vote for white men based on qualifications and policy, either, so i don't know what i'm expecting. women presidential and vice presidential candidates in us history.there have been 34 runnings of women in elections for president. a few of these are repeats. depends on what you mean by "real chance". as far as i know, none has ever gotten a party nomination. but this isn't something i'm overly aware of.

read your own link!1984, Geraldine Ferraro, VP, Democratic Party, with Walter Mondale, 37,577,352 votes in the final electionEnjoy.

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see how it says VP? yeah. she wasn't the presidential candidate. we don't elect vice presidents. we choose a presidential candidate and they select a vice president. sometimes it's a runner up in the primary, but not always.

oh, silly me, I thought you said "party nomination" not "party nomination for president" ... being the VP candidate does mean you get "party nomination"then there are all those other parties ...you put the list out there, you don't get to qualify it afterwards ...Enjoy.ps -- I like Gracie Allen on the Surprise ticket ...Edited by RAZD, : ...

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no. parties don't nominate vice presidents. nominees choose their running mates after the nomination. also, we were talking about PRESIDENT, not vice president. as long as the president doesn't get offed (and few do), the vice president is basically a senate member.

women presidential and vice presidential candidates in us history.