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Jazzns
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Message 35 of 44 (346986)
09-06-2006 2:05 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by Hyroglyphx
09-06-2006 12:36 PM


Re: Motives and agendas
I too believe the heart of the evolutionary theory to be atheistic. Absolutely, and without apology I believe that. That doesn't mean that people can't try and cut and paste God where they want, however, once they learn that evolution espouses a directionless and capricious display, they might be less inclined to try to make God fit in their small margin of possible intent. Most evo's believe that the universe spawned from a state of nothingness. No room for a Creator. Most evo's believe that life originated at random from a few simple chemical compounds: A Creator had nothing to do with it. Most evo's believe that changes for inexplicable reasons are separate from any percieved intent. No room for a Creator here either. In fact, one must 'create' in order to be a 'Creator,' so please explain to me where exactly a Creator fits within any evolutionary-laden theories, then explain to me how somehow couldn't come to the conclusion that isn't an atheistic doctrine at heart.
What an insulting and obstinate diatribe from pure ignrance and self-deception. Where you get off claiming that "most evo's" anything is pure hubris! You are welcome to believe whatever hallucination you would like about what we "evo's" believe but please excuse us when we fail to take anything you say past such wretched overgeneralization in any way seriously.
Just because you cannot understand the difference between methodological naturalism and atheism does not imbue you with any sort of immunity from having to deal with rational arguments from those of us who CAN UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE!
I happen to believe in God and that He is the creator of the universe and everything within it including the laws and processes of that lead to the evolution of life on this planet. This God is much more awe inspiring than some mystical anthropomorphic entity that creates things wholesale from nothing.
Edited by Jazzns, : No reason given.

Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

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Jazzns
Member (Idle past 3939 days)
Posts: 2657
From: A Better America
Joined: 07-23-2004


Message 40 of 44 (347004)
09-06-2006 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by robinrohan
09-06-2006 2:41 PM


Re: Motives and agendas
In that case, your God is cruel.
You are welcome to believe that robin. But remember, your morality and therefore that opinion, is subjective. Right? =)
Maybe we really CANT have a thread where you don't irrelevently inject your pet philosophy.
Edited by Jazzns, : No reason given.

Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

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