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jdean33442 Inactive Member |
quote: Actually it's the voice of Morris Goodman and he's not very happy about your conduct. You bring great shame to his name.
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caligula Inactive Member |
Since the pen is allways mighter than the sword,philosophy,reason and knowdlege will prevail in the end,even if there's only a few of us left seeking wisdom but wearing rags.
Our "emperor" Bush,will be long gone and remember by history as a megalomaniac dictator that he is.All you have to do is sit back,relax and watch it unraveling. History teaches us that have been and will be many,many changes... but nothing is ever any different. If you like to discuss this any further,send me an e-mail : doriia2002@yahoo.com to join Smartgroup2@yahogoups.com By invitation only, seeya ! ------------------If you like this topic tell all your friends about it,if you don't,keep your mouth shut.
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Winston Smith Asriel Inactive Member |
quote: I fear that may not happen. All this power that is being given to Bush is also being given to the office of president. Our freedoms and liberties are being threatened in the name of national security. We need to examine why these countries hate us rather than continue on this course we are taking of being the big brother of the world. As to Saddam, the fact is is that its too late to avert intervention, if he is allowed to continue to produce these weapons then he will use them on the free countries of the world and possibly us. [This message has been edited by Winston Smith Asriel, 03-02-2003] [This message has been edited by Winston Smith Asriel, 03-02-2003]
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derwood Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
quote:What point was that?
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derwood Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
quote: Who would have thought? Another right-wing simplton goes off the deep end and tries to intimidate an opponant by digging into their identity. How very honorable. Indeed, I just sent jdean33442@ditech.com an email explaining that he is not the only one that can find things out about people. Of course, I would not do such things. I leave such sleazy admissions of intellectual defeat to the true simpletons. [This message has been edited by SLPx, 03-03-2003]
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derwood Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
"NPR is one of the largest liberal rags in existence. My assumptions were correct. You WERE listening to liberal propaganda. Accept it or not."
Just one last observation: As I made PERFECTLY CLEAR, the ONLY thing I gleaned form the NPR piece was the fact (yes, it is a FACT) that Bush read off a litany of supposed atrocities committed by Hussein. It is true that he did read off such a list. Therefore, as that was the only piece of information that I mentioned form the NPR piece, it could not possibly have been propaganda, 'libral' or otherwise. So, no, I do not accpet any such thing. To do so would be too Orwellian for me. I leave blind acceptance of falsehoods to the right.
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jdean33442 Inactive Member |
quote: My goal was not to intimidate but to chastize your childish actions.
quote: My email is public because I allow it be published on the forum. Not a great accomplishment on your part.
quote: Of course you wouldn't. If you leave sleazy admissions to us simpletons, where do you file "your momma is calling"?
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jdean33442 Inactive Member |
quote: Oh yeah, NPR never skews it's fact reporting with liberal biase.
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Satcomm Inactive Member |
quote: That you tantrum like a three year old. And so much that, in an attempt to discredit what he was saying, you would stoop down to the level of modifying his quote into a form of ignorant slander. ------------------What is intelligence without wisdom?
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
I think that convincing the large majority of the population of the U.S., of the allies of the U.S., of the Islamic world, and of the world as a whole, of the justness of the war, is essential to the U.S. administration's winning any war against Iraq, and/or against terrorism.
If the U.S. does go to war against Irag, it, of course, will come out on top militarily. But without the above mentioned majority support of the various populations, it will have lost the larger war. Winning an unjust war, or even a perceived unjust war, is not really winning the war. The terrorism alert level in the U.S. was recently downgraded from orange to yellow (less perceived danger). This is considered a good thing. One thing that will get the terrorism alert level back up, to the top red level no less, is the U.S.'s starting the new Iraq war. Not only might the previously perceived terrorist threats become active, but George may discover new threats showing up. The difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is a matter of perspective. The difference between a just leader and a war criminal is a matter of which side wins the war. As I see it, George W. and associates are setting themselves up, to go down in history as being perceived as being some of the greatest war criminals ever. That is because it seems that they are about to win the small war, but loose the greater war. Moose [This message has been edited by minnemooseus, 03-05-2003]
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derwood Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
Oh my...
Coming from you, that hurts so much. I guess you didn't realise - or more likely, didn't care - that my 'tantrum' was in response to, among other things, that tower of intellect and integrity 'jdean' calling me an ass. Of course, I notice that, as is usually the case with conservatives, you could not actually produce any specifics. Just the typical braod based aspersion casting. Another mental midget goes into the ignore pile... [This message has been edited by SLPx, 03-06-2003]
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derwood Member (Idle past 1897 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
quote:quote: For - what is it now, the 5th or 6th time? - the only thing I mentioned from the NPR piece (as wel as other sources) was Bush's mention of these atrocities supposedly committed by Hussein. Which Bush did do. Which NPR reported. Where is the bias? I suppose, of course, that Rush, Ollie, Mike, etc. ONLY report unbiased truths, right?
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Satcomm Inactive Member |
Hehe, the level of your maturity is clear.
quote: I think that this statement is broadly smeared and generalized.
quote: You couldn't ignore a conservative even if you tried. ------------------What is intelligence without wisdom?
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jdean33442 Inactive Member |
quote: The majority of US citizens believe the war is just. As for our allies, it depends on what you define US allies as. Saudi Arabia is considered an ally, however, the country is anti-american. Just as in life, there are friends and then there are associates.
quote: Terrorist attacks have been planned long before we announced our intention to go to war with Iraq. Cowardice out of fear is exactly what terrorism spawns. An attack (attempted or successful) against the US is imminent.
quote: Attacking US civilians on it's soil is not freedom fighting regardless of perspective. It was an act of aggression towards us. The USS Cole bombinb can be construed as an act of freedom fighting (although not in my eyes).
quote: I agree and disagree with you on this. An immoral crime is still a crime regardless of who wins. The crime will go unnoticed though if the criminals are the victors, however, it is still a criminal act. The connotation of your statement bugs me though. Are you suggesting US generals commited the same scope of crimes as did Japan's and Germany's?
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jdean33442 Inactive Member |
quote:Yes it is. I was hoping you would catch on by now. I'll explain it for you. I stated you gleaned the information from some liberal media source. Which was obvious by the tone of your post. You proved me right. Thank you very much liberal genius. Was that cookie cutter enough for you?
quote: This is irrelevant. We were commenting on your liberal media hangouts. For the record I don't read/listen to any of the above (I have no idea who "Mike" is). Of course your little closed hypocritical mind believes all conservatives listen to Rush and have NRA bumper stickers. What other stereotypes do you believe in?
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