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Childhood Vaccinations – Necessary or Overkill? Sequal Thread

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Damouse
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Message 101 of 308 (428279)
10-15-2007 7:58 PM 		Reply to: Message 98 by molbiogirl
10-15-2007 6:42 PM

Re: There is no link between autism and vaccines
Look. I played with mercury in my dad's dental lab when I was a kid.
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As a grad student, I have a 4.0 and got my undergraduates degrees (all 3 of them) magna cum laude.
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you got really, really lucky? or were really, really careful?
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This statement is false.
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Yeah so i lurk more than i post, thats why my posts are so low for two year's worth of membership. So sue me.
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Damouse
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Message 108 of 308 (428295)
10-15-2007 9:38 PM 		Reply to: Message 104 by Buzsaw
10-15-2007 8:24 PM

Re: Playing with mercury
My answer: Yes.
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Mercury does not give you the flu, hay fever, but it might give you headaches.
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It is first and foremost a severe neurotoxin, and upon that can effect other organs. Im sure this isnt news, but to stress the point plenty of links can be suppied as to its potency. My personal favorite is the "...80 times the lethal does of dimethyl mercury was absorbed through her glove., she only recalled a few drops landing on her hand." Im sure playing with it through your fingers goes under "lucky," even though elemental mercury isnt as potant as some of it's compounds.
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As i understand it, thimerosal only releases mercury when it decomposes; not the case when its used in vaccines, not to any appreciable amount. Ironically, the wiki article also lists a small section...
Thimerosal, a preservative that contains mercury, has been added in very minute amounts to vaccines to prevent their deterioration since the 1930s. No adverse effects of thimerosal have ever been proven, although some allergic reactions have been noted. However, organizations such as the American Academy of Pediatrics have recommended that the use of thimerosal be reduced as a precautionary measure. Today, with the exception of some flu vaccines, none of the vaccines used in the United States to protect preschool children against twelve infectious diseases contains thimerosal as a preservative.
... accepted that thimerosal may produce mercury when decomposing, but hell, the kid probobly gets more mercury from that salmon he/she had for lunch.
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Never had the option to have an amalgam, but as i understand it the choice between an amalgam and a composite filling is up to the patient, is it not?
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Edited by Damouse, : Spelling, sentence structure.
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Damouse
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Message 111 of 308 (428301)
10-15-2007 9:48 PM 		Reply to: Message 110 by molbiogirl
10-15-2007 9:45 PM

Re: Playing with mercury
Hell to the yeah.
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Lindalou got a filling.
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Two months later Lindalou got depressed.
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Guess what caused her clinical depression?
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Is this a referance to an actual event that LL claims or just a general stab at her disposition?
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Damouse
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Message 113 of 308 (428304)
10-15-2007 9:58 PM 		Reply to: Message 112 by molbiogirl
10-15-2007 9:55 PM

Re: Playing with mercury
Which one; "clinical depression" or "filling"?
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2 months sounds a little short for a bit of mercury....
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Damouse
Member (Idle past 4933 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
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Message 115 of 308 (428311)
10-15-2007 10:21 PM 		Reply to: Message 114 by molbiogirl
10-15-2007 10:11 PM

Re: Playing with mercury
Ahh yes i was wondering why this points hadnt been made earlier.
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wiki writes:
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Risk assessment for effects on the nervous system have been made by extrapolating from dose-response relationships for methylmercury, which is why thiomersal was removed from U.S. childhood vaccines starting in 1999.
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Isnt the effects of thimersol from childhood vacinations point moot if (in the US at least) thimersol has not been apart of vaccines for quite some time?
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What are we supposed to do? Find all the kids who were vaccinated and apologize?
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Edited by Damouse, : Damn dbcodes.
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Damouse
Member (Idle past 4933 days)
Posts: 215
From: Brookfield, Wisconsin
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Message 217 of 308 (428853)
10-17-2007 8:35 PM 		Reply to: Message 212 by Kitsune
10-17-2007 5:58 PM

Re: Let's see some evidence
LL writes:
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Common sense says to me that I don't want those things injected into me or a loved one. They don't belong in the body. I need to see proof that they do no harm. The truth is that no one really knows.
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What common sense, your common sense? That doesnt mean the communal common sense then?
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Heres one. People made vaccines for the purpose of being injected into other people? Vegtables, on the other hand, were not "made" to go in your bloodstream.
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And adress nator's issue about the carcinogens in broccoli, im interested in your response.
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ABE: The truth is (straight from PubMed a la molbiogirl), there is proof. But will you back down now that you have been proven wrong, or debate with an agenda; to be right no matter the truth?
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Edited by Damouse, : No reason given.
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