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Vacate
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Message 8 of 308 (427562)
10-12-2007 12:00 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by Buzsaw
10-11-2007 10:33 PM


I haven't read much on the subject, but I did find this article: Vaccine Myths and Why They are Dangerous by Dr. David Butler-Jones
Notably this quote -
quote:
However, it must be recognized the there are also risks that result, such as preventable disease outbreaks, if vaccines are not taken. More worrisome though is the anti-vaccine views fueled by misinformation, or bad science. This is the “umbrellas cause rain because we see more umbrellas on rainy days” phenomenon.
Seizure disorders, autism, SIDS all show themselves in early childhood. Coincidentally, this is also the period when most immunizations are given. So often, vaccines are connected to an illness only in terms of time. The real issue is not whether problems occur within days or weeks of an immunization, but whether they occur more often after receiving a vaccine.
On this point, study after study has shown that these serious effects occur at the same rate with or without vaccine. However, those not immunized are more likely to get sick or die, or have brain damage, from the infection the vaccine could have prevented.
I tend to lean towards it being safe. In Canada our government pays the bills for our immunizations, this leads me to believe that if there was dangers the government would put a halt to it. The Pharma companies may not care but why would the government wish to turn a (future) tax payer into an expense?

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Vacate
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Message 11 of 308 (427569)
10-12-2007 1:16 AM
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10-12-2007 12:45 AM


1. Can you cite one or two of these studies? I'm wondering how they can study the population when nearly all of the child members of the population receive the vaccines.
Nope. I posted the essay for the sake of interest. I can say though that we do have access to medical research from other countries so studies are possible.
2. It is my understanding that the incidence of autism began to escalate commencerate with the practice of vaccinating babies.
You could be right. As I said previously I just cannot understand why my government would fund immunization and then pay for the adverse health effects afterwards.
quote:
At one time, paralytic poliomyelitis was a common childhood disease in Canada. However, due to the introduction of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) in 1955 and oral polio vaccine (OPV) in 1962, the transmission of wild poliovirus (WPV) was rapidly controlled in Canada. The last major polio epidemic occurred in 1959. Canada reported its last case of indigenous wild polio infection in 1977.
Small outbreaks of wild poliovirus occurred in 1978 and 1979 in British Columbia, Ontario, and Alberta among closed communities that do not accept immunization for religious reasons. The outbreaks stemmed from wild poliovirus that was imported from the Netherlands (outbreaks had occurred in similar communities there). In 1993, another outbreak resulting from imported virus from the Netherlands occurred in the same communities.
Poliomyelitis
Don't you consider it important that these injections have saved people? I know of one person with autism even though everyone I know has been immunized.

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