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Silent H
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Message 91 of 153 (282477)
01-30-2006 5:41 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by RAZD
01-29-2006 9:23 PM


Re: bottom line for me...
There's something worse than English cooking?

I didn't say it was horrible... just very bland.

My gf went to england and said the food was definitely worse there. Then again we both like english fish n chips, and I have to admit I am growing fond of batterfried hamburger and chip "butty" at a local authentic english diner.

I found the Dutch ristaffel (rice table) - a smorgasborg of indonesian cuisine

Thankfully my gf's mom liked foreign cuisine and had her own version of that which was delicious.

I'd get to sample native cuisine in a native environment ... they went to Kentucky Fried Chicken.

One world culture marches on.


holmes
"What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)
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Parasomnium
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Message 92 of 153 (282499)
01-30-2006 7:52 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by Silent H
01-30-2006 5:34 AM


Dutch food
holmes writes:

We got a big laugh when we found out they thought those signs were of girls eating something quite different. I suppose it doesn't help when one is in A'dam and sees signs of girls doing similar things on different shops.

If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, then I'd better not react, lest I be nipped in the bud, if you know what I mean.

Does conquering count?

Oh, absolutely. Yes, conquering definitely counts. That's why all the delicatessen in Lower Manhattan serve exclusively Dutch food, as does the whole of South Africa, New zealand, Tasmania, Indonesia, The Netherlands Antilles, Ceylon, Ghana... need I go on?

By the way, ever since William of Orange came to England to occupy its vacant throne, the things they serve there are, technically, also Dutch food. Not something we pride ourselves in, but still.

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Message 93 of 153 (282514)
01-30-2006 8:31 AM


An Ugly Turn of Events
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Here's a nice topic about food. When that one reaches 300 posts, it'll be closed. Feel free to start another topic about food.

You know what they say: "Politics and food don't mix." With that in mind, let's move food discussion to another thread, and open up this thread for discussion about political identity.

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    SuperNintendo Chalmers
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    Message 94 of 153 (282651)
    01-30-2006 4:12 PM
    Reply to: Message 43 by randman
    01-27-2006 12:11 PM


    Re: bottom line for me...
    Would government-funded insurance cover that?

    Probably not, but maybe....I don't trust putting the government in charge myself.

    What I am in favor of is a single payer system for some basic level (but not too basic) of health coverage. Those that can afford it would still be free to purchase their own additional health insurance or services.

    Basically everyone would be covered with decent insurance and those that want more can pay for it.


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    randman 
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    Message 95 of 153 (282665)
    01-30-2006 4:59 PM
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    01-30-2006 4:12 PM


    Re: bottom line for me...
    That might go over OK with the public. The reports on Hillary-care back in the early 90s were that it would be illegal to go outside of the system...something about making it fair.
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    SuperNintendo Chalmers
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    Message 96 of 153 (282667)
    01-30-2006 5:06 PM
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    01-30-2006 4:59 PM


    Re: bottom line for me...
    Well Rand,

    The govt. certainly shouldn't cover everything (I'm sure we agree on that).... For example, cosmetic surgery, cosmetic orthodontia, etc. etc. should be elective and paid for through private funds or insurance.

    Of course the trick is to figure out what to cover... but the insurance companies don't seem to have a problem coming up with lists of covered things, so it can't be that hard.

    We really need a single payer system at some level because it is the most efficient (economies of scale) AND health care is really the most effective when everyone is covered. Every single uninsured person increases health care costs for those of us who are covered.


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    nator
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    Message 97 of 153 (282678)
    01-30-2006 6:01 PM
    Reply to: Message 86 by robinrohan
    01-29-2006 9:11 PM


    Re: bottom line for me...
    quote:
    I don't understand this. What difference does it make what we eat?

    I just eat whatever's available.


    We must eat to stay alive, and we also can choose in the US among a staggering aray of foodstuffs in an equally-staggering range of quality levels.

    What we eat has a direct impact upon our health both long and short term, mood, and quality of life.


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    robinrohan
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    Message 98 of 153 (282687)
    01-30-2006 6:17 PM
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    01-30-2006 6:01 PM


    Re: bottom line for me...
    What we eat has a direct impact upon our health both long and short term, mood, and quality of life.

    What I eat affects my mood? Like if I eat hotdogs, I'll be in a bad mood, but if I eat fresh fish I won't be?


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    nator
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    Message 99 of 153 (282696)
    01-30-2006 7:38 PM
    Reply to: Message 98 by robinrohan
    01-30-2006 6:17 PM


    Re: bottom line for me...
    quote:
    What I eat affects my mood? Like if I eat hotdogs, I'll be in a bad mood, but if I eat fresh fish I won't be?

    Maybe.

    Tryptohan, which is present in foods like turkey, beans, and fish, is a precursor to seratonin, a mood-enhancing chemical. There are also several particular nutrients which are present in carbohydrates which increase the creation of seratonin from tryptophan.

    Chocolate also contains some mood-lifting chemicals.

    Spikes in blood sugar levels definitely affect mood and energy and thinking ability in a big way, as does caffeine and it's withdrawl sysmproms. So, foods that have a lot of refined carbohydrates tend to give you a big boost in energy quickly, but then crash you down later.


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    Tal
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    Message 100 of 153 (282829)
    01-31-2006 9:02 AM
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    01-30-2006 7:38 PM


    Re: bottom line for me...
    Chocolate also contains some mood-lifting chemicals.

    I always feel better when I eat chocolate.

    On another note, eating good food after being out and about the greater Bagdad area did wonders for my mood/spirit (as in, lift your spirits).


    The Muslim women have a no lesser role than that of men in the war of liberation; they manufacture men

    Hamas Charter
    What's your favorite line?
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    Silent H
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    Message 101 of 153 (282914)
    01-31-2006 2:40 PM
    Reply to: Message 100 by Tal
    01-31-2006 9:02 AM


    having an identity crisis of your own?
    Not that I am for Hamas, but your attempt to make them look bad has me scratching my head.

    1) You quotemined the charter cutting off the full role they see women fulfilling...

    ...and play a great role in guiding and educating the [new] generation.

    2) How is what you quoted any more ridiculous than the mysogynist passages of the Bible.

    I mean there is plenty bad to say about Hamas, but what you chose seems to be something that shoots yourself in the foot.


    holmes
    "What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)
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    Tal
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    Message 102 of 153 (282917)
    01-31-2006 3:17 PM
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    01-31-2006 2:40 PM


    Re: having an identity crisis of your own?
    What's your favorite quote from the charter?


    The Muslim women have a no lesser role than that of men in the war of liberation; they manufacture men

    Hamas Charter
    What's your favorite line?
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    Silent H
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    Message 103 of 153 (282936)
    01-31-2006 5:11 PM
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    01-31-2006 3:17 PM


    Re: having an identity crisis of your own?
    What's your favorite quote from the charter?

    Why? This doesn't answer my points about your attempting to joke about it. Personally, I do not like Hamas, so picking out pieces to simply mock it is a bit ghoulish.


    holmes
    "What you need is sustained outrage...there's far too much unthinking respect given to authority." (M.Ivins)
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    crashfrog
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    Message 104 of 153 (282945)
    01-31-2006 5:50 PM
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    01-31-2006 5:11 PM


    Re: having an identity crisis of your own?
    I love hamas, like on a pita with some cheese, sprouts, and cucumber. I like the hamas made with roasted red peppers the best.
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    Chiroptera
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    Message 105 of 153 (282958)
    01-31-2006 6:01 PM
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    01-31-2006 3:17 PM


    Re: having an identity crisis of your own?
    I guess this would be my favorite quote:

    Hamas is a humane movement, which cares for human rights and is committed to the tolerance inherent in Islam as regards attitudes towards other religions. It is only hostile to those who are hostile towards it, or stand in its way in order to disturb its moves or to frustrate its efforts. Under the shadow of Islam it is possible for the members of the three religions: Islam, Christianity and Judaism to coexist in safety and security.


    "Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt
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