boasts of Athiests II

The point is you can't "assign" an intrinsic or inherent value to anything. You can only recognize it if it exists. Anything you yourself can assign is subjective, not inherent, intrinsic, objective, built in, or absolute.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

So What, Faith?Why would anyone even care if that is true or not?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

No reason, unless you care about the truth.

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Why exactly do you consider the most negative aspects of a proposed person's statements or actions first?

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Projection.

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What dominated the 60s among the liberal in-crowd was a moralistic, self-righteous political correctness.

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...as opposed to the current Neo-Con in-crowd's moralistic, self-righteous moralistic self-righteousness.

What truth are you talking about?Are you talking subjective, objective, absolute, inherrent, intrinsic?

Are you then saying that Robin's inability to identify any form of positive, selfless act is then being projected onto me as a penalty?

Yeah, right. Like objective value has more value than subjective value. Way too funny.See, it is moments like this that are just plain wondrous.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Are you then saying that Robin's inability to identify any form of positive, selfless act is then being projected onto me as a penalty?

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Not exactly.He projects the way he thinks about life on to everyone else, assuming everyone else thinks, more or less, the same way.

That's like saying that "2+2=5" is just as valuable as "2+2=4."Of course, 2+2=5 might have some aesthetic value.

I wouldn't think so, math has definitive absolute answers unless you are to change the basic axioms of arithmatic you can't have 2+2=5. Whereas life has ambiguity and context...

The subjective we make up ourselves. We can't make up that which is objective. We don't make up the law of gravity. We discover it.

Let me quote your example for posterity. I'm sorry robin but that has to be the silliest post in both of the threads. Where do you get these things?Today I had to run some cds up to my sister. It is a day with a bright sky and small white clouds that look like a flock of sheep dancing on a blue meadow. About a mile south of my sisters, all traffic stopped. It seems that once again someone had left a gate open and the emus and bison had wandered out. I jumped out of the car and helped the folk shoo the critters back inside. The bison are easy but the emus always try to break away. Anyway, in a few minutes all the critters were back inside the fence and the gate closed and bolted.Now, was that experience of more or less value because it was subjective?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Actually, he's simply thinking rationally and logically and objectively, and I for one am constantly amazed at how few others do, which is demonstrated here time after time, so that he encounters little but absurd objections instead of serious discussion. He's making objective statements. They could be wrong -- that's what could be discussed if anybody could follow an argument -- but they aren't subjective, they aren't "projections." What's subjective is all the absurd replies.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

What a wonderful day, jar. Glad you could enjoy it with such gusto.