The impossibility of infinite ability..aka "god"

The profound problem I see with this whole theorem is that it presupposes that God moves along a timeline with His creation, instead of being outside of the time domain. If God is outside of the time domain, it would not be difficult to encompass all points of time simultaneously.The reason we are bound by time is because we are made of matter. Matter is intimately connected to time-space. If God is not made of matter then time and space are irrelevant to His existence.I therefore see nothing in that as being of any consequence to the concept of God, unless of course you limit God, as you have done. Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : typo

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“There is something which unites magic and applied science while separating both from the 'wisdom' of earlier ages. For the wise men of old the cardinal problem had been how to conform the soul to objective reality, and the solution had been knowledge, self-discipline, and virtue. For magic and applied science alike the problem is how to subdue reality to the wishes of men: the solution is a technique; and both, in the practice of this technique, are ready to do things hitherto regarded as disgusting and impious" -C.S. Lewis

That is not at all what time means. Does time stop if you don't move? Does it speed up if you don't move? More to the point, if God is outside of time, then how is he bound by your limitations?The definition of time is not inclusive to the infinite, but of increments pertaining to mass and space.Duration regarded as belonging to the present life as distinct from the life to come or from eternity; finite duration. Why do you insist that God moves at all, since movement is uniquely apportioned to that which has a body -- i.e., material? You speak of God in anthropomorphic terms, as if he were a man in outer space. These pantheistic notions about God have nothing to do with the Judeo-Christian concept of God. I really don't see "distance" as being relevant to God. If God is omnipresent, there is no distance traveled, and indeed, this also speaks of God in anthropomorphic ways as if He ambles along on a time line like material beings. Why not!?!?! Just because you cannot conceive of it in your mind does not negate the possibility. Low intellects? You seem to have trouble grasping physical concepts, and then further limit God to your own intellectual barriers. Since you are not what arbitrates God's existence or how he deals with the affairs of the universe, your whole premise is unfounded.

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“There is something which unites magic and applied science while separating both from the 'wisdom' of earlier ages. For the wise men of old the cardinal problem had been how to conform the soul to objective reality, and the solution had been knowledge, self-discipline, and virtue. For magic and applied science alike the problem is how to subdue reality to the wishes of men: the solution is a technique; and both, in the practice of this technique, are ready to do things hitherto regarded as disgusting and impious" -C.S. Lewis

Yes, but there seem to be some naturalists in here that are aware that he is using a non sequitur. I think what is irking me the most is that he is essentially referring to me as having "low intellect" when clearly it is he that has difficulty grasping the concept of time itself. With any luck he'll at least see that this particular argument is nonsensical, if nothing else. I never have a problem with people who have difficulty with believing in God. Its honest. What I have little tolerance for is people who search for ways to destroy someone else's faith just so they can pat themselves on the back. Clearly it backfired on him.

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“There is something which unites magic and applied science while separating both from the 'wisdom' of earlier ages. For the wise men of old the cardinal problem had been how to conform the soul to objective reality, and the solution had been knowledge, self-discipline, and virtue. For magic and applied science alike the problem is how to subdue reality to the wishes of men: the solution is a technique; and both, in the practice of this technique, are ready to do things hitherto regarded as disgusting and impious" -C.S. Lewis

As a helpful hint to getting you started at EvC, if you'd like to quote someone, you can do that in a couple of different ways.At the beginning of your quote, place this html code "quote" in brackets. When you are finished with your quote, you close it by doing the same thing by placing the word "/quote" in brackets.Likewise, if you want to quote shade, the code is "qs" in brackets at the beginning of what you'd like to quote, followed by closing it with "/qs" in brackets at the end of what you'd like to quote.If this still does not make any sense to you, EvC has a "peek" function at the lower rightthand corner of your screen, directly adjacent to the "reply" button. After you are done reading this post, hit the peek button and you can see what I'm talking about.Btw, welcome to EvC. In theory, yes, it would. But I hardly see how it is relevant since it only makes sense in relation to space and matter, none of which are attributes given to God. You destroyed me, eh?Check this out: If you don't move, time will NOT speed up, either for you, or anyone else around you. We should assume that time speeds up when you are sleeping?Secondly, you are using Relativity and Special Relativity incorrectly. Time only means anything in relation to matter and the forces exerted on it, and the space in which the matter exists. Since God has no mass and is not contained or defined by space, its completely moot, as has been pointed out to you by other naturalists. Mathematically, distance x speed will give you the time it takes to travel that distance, but you are equivocating that time means distance when it does not. If time and distance are really just the same thing, then how is that going to work in a formula with time x time, or distance x distance? How is that going to tell you speed? Answer: it won't.Furthermore, your use of natural physical laws are erroneous because there is no justification to assume that God is subject to ANY of it. Here is the surest way to know that God is outside of this domain:This is all, of course, contingent upon the assumption that God exists. If God is the creator of all life, then God is outside of the elements of that universe for the sole fact that nothing that comes in to existence can define its existence without a cause. If God is bound by time, mass, and space, then He would essentially have had to create Himself in the process, which is an absurdity. This is a logical fallacy because no one has ever witnessed anything coming in to existence without a cause outside of itself.But maybe you can explain to me why it is you think that God is bound by any physical property. Edited by Nemesis Juggernaut, : Edit to fix lefthand to righthand

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“There is something which unites magic and applied science while separating both from the 'wisdom' of earlier ages. For the wise men of old the cardinal problem had been how to conform the soul to objective reality, and the solution had been knowledge, self-discipline, and virtue. For magic and applied science alike the problem is how to subdue reality to the wishes of men: the solution is a technique; and both, in the practice of this technique, are ready to do things hitherto regarded as disgusting and impious" -C.S. Lewis

In the pantheon, Gods and Goddesses have intercourse, which in turn tells me that they have genitalia. The Judeo-Christian concept of God as a "He" or "Him" is a personification of that which has no physical personhood. By your rationale, we should assume that referring to ships as "she" means that the ship physically is a female, or that Spanish words referring to masculine or feminine pronouns means that they actually assume that a table or a door has a sex. If per chance you are discussing a Spinoza-like pantheism, then I would agree that it does not entail physical features. I was specifically referring to the pantheon, where Zeus and Odin reside.

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“There is something which unites magic and applied science while separating both from the 'wisdom' of earlier ages. For the wise men of old the cardinal problem had been how to conform the soul to objective reality, and the solution had been knowledge, self-discipline, and virtue. For magic and applied science alike the problem is how to subdue reality to the wishes of men: the solution is a technique; and both, in the practice of this technique, are ready to do things hitherto regarded as disgusting and impious" -C.S. Lewis