Just What is (and what is wrong with) Political Correctness?

I'm surprised you didn't link to David Whorowitz's attacks on right-wing professors. Oh well--that's probably because there are so many. This is why science fora frustrate you.Who established this "simple objective fact?" What standards did they use to establish it? You just make this stuff up--because your ideological bent tells you it must be so. Objective fact? Prove it. Cite the evidence.Oh, wait. Coffee House. You can make stuff up here, I guess. A network of political partisans put together a plan to secretly record other people expressing their opinion in an attempt to discredit them socially and professionally. Bounties were offered.And it isn't just "the left" that condemned these tactics--just everyone to the left of Attila the Hun. These are the tactics of thug police informers, not a "mere student." More right-wing PC crapola.

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I guess we could recommend that students who are intimidated and graded down for their politically incorrect positions just leave school and let the universities become even more perfect leftist bastions.

The idea that "man" as a standalone word or "he" or even "guy" are gender neutral is not only laughable it's a strawman.If you read back through my posts you will find (I hope!) that I have never said any of these are gender neutral, so I don't see why you said this. From what I have observed of your posting record here I wouldn't expect you to put words into other people's mouths, so maybe I just haven't been explaining myself very well.What I have said is:

• The Old English origin of the word man was gender neutral
• Guys can be both gender-neutral and specifically male
• The suffix -man in modern English can be gender neutral in words such as Chairman
• There is no consistency in whether -man is gender-specific or neutral in usage

As for the test: Well good for them - except I don't know where they would have got the idea that man is generally understood to embrace woman. All I've ever said is that the suffix -man can be gender-neutral (chairman) - but it can also be gender-specific (policeman). The standalone word man almost always means male - the only exception I can think of is in phrases like "help your fellow man". I'm actually astonished it wasn't nearly 100% - like I say, usage of the standalone word man (as opposed to the -man suffix) almost always means male. Well no shit Sherlock, they needed to do a test to find this out!? I could have saved them the money and just told them that's what they would find. Was that Drake in Des Moines?I used to live about 60 miles from there - which in Iowa is virtually next door. Nothing but corn fields and dead skunks between us

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I guess we could recommend that students who are intimidated and graded down for their politically incorrect positions just leave school and let the universities become even more perfect leftist bastions.

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Evidence for this assertion, please.Names, dates, etc.

I guess we could just ignore the evidence and post stupid stuff.So pick your best cases, Faith, the ones where there is no room for doubt, where tons and tons of evidence about left-wing professorial browbeating, etc., will open our eyes. Maybe Robin sees a lot of that down in Texas--ya think?Post that info. Let's take a look at it.

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Too much work to dig up evidence for a coffee house thread of something that is well known to anyone paying attention. But here are a couple of references with plenty of links to more:Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out - David HorowitzDangerous ProfessorsIt's even at the level of middle school. I encountered it in high school in the late 50s already. It's worse now.Check the archives. There's a ton of stuff.So how about you come up with an example or two of right wing violations in the classroom? They are much rarer. Good luck.

Most of the stories on the SAF website are just whining about the teacher expressing their political beliefs or knocking Bush, not about stifling dissent in the classroom. And in some of the "legitimate" cases, how is one to know that the grade they received was not earned? If you remember being in school, you will remember the kids who very much deserved that "F" but refused to take responsibility for their failing and blamed it on the "fact" that the teacher did not like them. Happens all the time.These neo-brownshirt techniques are quite chilling. Some teachers have resorted to taping their lectures in order to have evidence in case any claims are made against them. Professors (and librarians) are being smeared as having some sort of alliance with radical Islam and accused of being seditious simply for critiquing US foreign or domestic policy.Many of the stories about abuse touted by David Horowitz are completely false. He has even admitted to that! They are fabrications meant to further his agenda of expelling progressive thought from campuses (and primary and secondary schools, now, too), which (oh the irony kills me!), essentially entails an "affirmative action" program for conservative professors.As for your right wing abuse stories...I have a couple of my own. The first being in 1st grade when my teacher forced all of us to pray before walking to the lunchroom. She was fired.The next being in 11th grade and writing a book critique of Ralph Ellison's Invisible Man and I devoted one short paragraph comparing the protagonist's travails to that of homosexuals. My conservative Christian AP English teacher had a fit and gave me an "F." I took the paper to the head of the English dept. at my high school and (not telling her what had happened yet) asked for her opinion. I used the pretext that I would be having her the next year and wanted her constructive criticism. She said she would have given me an A- the minus due to a couple of small grammatical errors. I also took it to my teacher from the previous year and she said the same thing. I then contacted the principal and confronted my teacher with this knowledge and she said I would have to rewrite the essay. I did so and fixed the grammatical errors and essentially just reworded the paragraph in question, retaining the exact meaning. She gave me an A. I remained an A student in her class, but we were constantly at odds over interpretations and choice of reading material.My third isn't necessarily a "right wing" bias example, but my Algebra 2 teacher quit in the middle of my 10th grade year and was replaced by a man who refused to call on the girls in the class. We got him fired.I have had both very liberal and very conservative professors at the college level. Most of them made their beliefs loud and clear during discussions, but none of them stifled any kind of dissenting opinions (although my strongly conservative Ancient Civilizations professor was definitely very creepy).

"Whining" = The PC Well Poisoning Term of Choice to describe anyone who disagrees with their opinions and objects to their tactics.I see. There's nothing wrong, nothing intimidating, about a teacher expressing their political beliefs to a bunch of young students of a variety of beliefs. Knocking the President is just fine in that context. Nothing wrong with that, nothing intimidating about that. Nothing that would warn a kid to keep his opinions to himself if he disagrees. Naaah.Fine, you had some right wing intimidation. I figure there's some of that out there.Horowitz has showcased hundreds of incidents. Which one or two did he get wrong?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Please quote him with a clear reference. His site is littered with answers to such false accusations. Expelling progressive thought. My my. Did you know that "progressive" was originally a euphemism dreamed up by American Communists to make their agendas palatable to Americans?I'll be generous and assume you really believe that slander rather than that you hold it in bad faith, and are therefore open to correction. He simply wants academic freedom for ALL points of view. FREEDOM, not enforced cramming of "progressive thought" down the throats of the next generation. Parity. Pluralism. All those good American things. Instead of the hegemony of the leftist guild. Um, the FACTS are, as opposed to your spin, that his academic freedom manifesto wants to END political discrimination in hiring and firing of professors, which now prevails. Far from affirmative action for conservatives, what is there now is political screening for leftists. POLITICAL, not academic. POLITICAL. Academic freedom means leaving politics out of the selection process altogether. Makes sense to me, but apparently it upsets liberals who like having the universities all to themselves, truly do not believe in academic freedom but only in indoctrinating the next generation in their own "progressive" ideas.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

WOW, I didn't know Theodore Roosevelt was a communist. He ran on the Progressive Party ticket in 1912. Do you know the face of a known communist is on Mt. Rushmore?Edited by anglagard, : tense

i completely agree people should be able to assert THEIR ethnic / ancestrial origins , and that pride in them . . .it is when someone else uses a label to segregate them by their origins ....... and then uses terms design to demean , and then follows discrimination ......why afrroamerican ... why black neither indicates a ethnic origin ...american of "name of cultural group" of Namibian decent is much more equal if you are happy with american of irish decent ....no one is pretending cultural difference dont exsist .. thats why i used the term american ....but what im saying is apon seeing a person do not label them , see them as a individual, let them bring forth any cultral/ethnic tag they want , you may be suprised at what some people consider as their orgins ..

Sorry, I shouldn't have said original, but certainly they chose the term carefully and a lot of their stuff got accepted under it.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

wow you nhave a very centric world view ... so people can call you anything and it does not demean you ...IN WHOS EYES ... people who use the term "nigger" are demeaning those they use it against thats why they use it to call attention to and to announce a view about that person .culturally the german people get demeaned by certain UK news papers every time england play germany at football ... labels from WW2 are dug up and the germans are protrayed in a very unflattering way .. german footyball officails are called strumbanfurhers .. nazis's ... lil hitlers .. players labeled humourless , that they "ARE ONLY OBEYING ORDERS " .. to the extent the german goverment has complained ...YOU personally may not feel demeaned by such things but others do , and the whole cutural group is affected .. attitudes to german poeple is tainted by such labels ..and btw im sure a french man could tell you a few demeaning terms for germans , as could a polish , russian et al . hmm how about nazis ??? a hitler .. happy to have such names sprayed on your car ?? to have swastika's painted on you house ... of course not , and you have every right not to be labeled as such , just as the other person has a right not to be called "n****r"

The term "progressive" often covers for Communist and leftist organizations, though it may also be used innocently enough for other groups. Here are a few references for its leftist use.

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How many more decades will it take for the “progressives”(term to describe a political movement which began about 1905 -readily used by v.i.lenin and ilk) and we thought would die off with its hundreds of millions of victims) , now lead by former communist “Soros” (even his name is phony - trained, groomed, funded by the former imperial communists to talk like a capitalist - but walk like a commie)

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http://moonbatcentral.com/wordpress/?p=274

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Amid the numerous democrats calling for more cradle-to-grave social welfare programs, is a bunch that calls themselves the Congressional Progressive Caucus. This body, currently made up of 53 democrats and one independent ” in case you cannot figure out who the independent is, it is the self-proclaimed socialist from Vermont, Bernie Sanders ” has cleverly disguised its true intentions in its name.

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A list of Communist organizations. Four have "Progressive" in their title:List of Communist Organizations Operating in US.Not the term "progressive" but just a general reference to political cover terms for Communist groups:

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September 27, 2005
A crowd of around 10,000 protesters gathered in San Francisco on Saturday, September 24, allegedly to express their displeasure with the war in Iraq. But it wasn't Iraq this rally was really about, but rather radical leftist and anarchist politics manifested by a hatred for America and Israel, and, of course, a chance to rail against the supposed evils of capitalism.

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This was fitting given the two main groups, International ANSWER (Act Now to Stop the War and End Racism) and United for Peace and Justice (UFPJ), that organized the event. For those in the know, those are front groups for communist/socialist organizations that promotethe totalitarian and terroristenemies of the United States.ANSWER in the past provided human shields to keep Saddam Hussein in power and has links to North Korea, Cuba, the PLO and its Ba’ath Party allies. The leaderof United for Peace and Justice, Leslie Cagan, is a longtime member of the Communist Party USA.

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Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out - David Horowitz

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A date of departure is meaning less .... if you say you are of german ethic group .... who many generations of non german oringins are you the product of ?? how many generations can you line progress until ,it will not be able to claim german ancestry .. or will all be breeding with fellow germansB by what measure are you a Jew ...do you claim a ancestrial link by blood .. do you claim by religious conviction / conversion ... how does the equate with your claim of german ancestry in terms of heiredity .C as A and B plz not which are you culturally german of jewish or americanD no you are not , firstly the nazi party does not allow jews to join it .. fascist is the name of the politics of the nazi party .. you can claim to follow those doctrines ..but do be aware some countries still have anti fasciuim laws and you may find your self deported .... and what do you mean by a closet one ... little point in holding opinons if no one else knows .. would be like setting up a web forum and only let yourself have access .......