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tsig Member (Idle past 2908 days) Posts: 738 From: USA Joined: |
it was a joke. a world wide flood on earth could not possibly have caused a canyon on mars. Of course the question is where did the Martian water go. It's obvious that God decided to punish the Martians at the same time he wanted a flud on Earth, so he killed two birds with one stone.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1344 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
i hope you're playing along with the joke and not serious.
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Gary Inactive Member |
Europa of course. The Europeans were especially sinful so God still isn't done flooding them.
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tsig Member (Idle past 2908 days) Posts: 738 From: USA Joined: |
Europa of course. The Europeans were especially sinful so God still isn't done flooding them. Well it's possible that after the earth flud god decided to use the water on Europa, but Earth will not take a back seat on sinning and needing punishment on any body. Guess it might have been a three way cusion.
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tsig Member (Idle past 2908 days) Posts: 738 From: USA Joined: |
I don't know, however, the same question can be asked of the mainstream interpretation. What DID cause the uplift of the Colorado Plateau? What about the Uncompahgre uplift? What about the Gunnison uplift? We have ideas, theories, all backed by data, but we weren't there. We can never be 100% certain. I took a second look at this answer and you are right, I had my mind going the other way. The problem is that the river cut through the mountain.
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Dr Jack Member Posts: 3514 From: Immigrant in the land of Deutsch Joined: Member Rating: 8.7 |
The answer, of course, is the same one main stream geologists give for the same question: why didn't geology create a grand canyon on every continent?
Because it was a result of local conditions not found anywhere else. The structure of the rocks, the lay of the land, the water flow patterns all were different and only in this one place did God in his glory choose to create such a singular monument to his splendour. Actually mainstream geologists would probably leave off that last bit.
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tsig Member (Idle past 2908 days) Posts: 738 From: USA Joined: |
The answer, of course, is the same one main stream geologists give for the same question: why didn't geology create a grand canyon on every continent? Because it was a result of local conditions not found anywhere else. The structure of the rocks, the lay of the land, the water flow patterns all were different and only in this one place did God in his glory choose to create such a singular monument to his splendour. So both sides have the same problem, maybe this is one thing they might agree about. How shall we solve this, read the bible or go look for ourselves, accept scientific opinion or creation science?
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roxrkool Member (Idle past 989 days) Posts: 1497 From: Nevada Joined: |
Flying Hawk writes:
Who has the better explanation for what you see?
So both sides have the same problem, maybe this is one thing they might agree about. How shall we solve this, read the bible or go look for ourselves, accept scientific opinion or creation science?
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tsig Member (Idle past 2908 days) Posts: 738 From: USA Joined: |
Who has the better explanation for what you see? Science, the bible's just another book on the library shelf. Kept hoping a creo would stop by. thanks
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6496 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
Actually,
We find similar canyons all over the world. Though none as gigantic as the grand canyon, most of these canyons are caused by streams or rivers eroding them over time. This presents a problem to the creationist viewpoint since, if the canyons are all a product of the receeding waters, then how come so many have streams/rivers running thrugh them? For a list of canyons: Canyon - Wikipedia
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6496 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
what does this look like to you?
File:GrandCanyon-EO.JPG - Wikipedia That's the grand canyon from space. Does it look more like a product of tectonic activity, for example the san andreas fault: File:San Andreas Fault - Carrizo Plains.jpg - Wikipedia Or perhapse more like a a river, say the Nile: http://www.earthkam.ucsd.edu/.../graphics/annotated/nile.jpg Pay special attention to the marks left by now extinct channels of the river. See any similarities to the grand canyon? EDIT: Some more nice images. Here is another one of the canyon: http://www.eoc.nasda.go.jp/...evg/image/evg_grand_canyon.jpg And another of the Nile: GES DISC Compare and contrast folks This message has been edited by Yaro, 10-12-2004 08:38 PM
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tsig Member (Idle past 2908 days) Posts: 738 From: USA Joined: |
This presents a problem to the creationist viewpoint since, if the canyons are all a product of the receeding waters, then how come so many have streams/rivers running thrugh them?
Because water follows gravity, so as the water ran off the land it followed the path of least resistance, so the rivers naturally followed in the path of the flood torrents. So the rivers are proof ofthe flood. If you can make it up as you go along facts will never bother you.
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tsig Member (Idle past 2908 days) Posts: 738 From: USA Joined: |
posted mine before I saw your other. You deserved a better reply, you put a lot of effort in it.
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6496 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
It's ok
I was hopeing a YEC would really try to tackle the issue without the old saw arguments they love to trot out over and over. I wan't to see them explain the similarities of the pictures I posted and describe how their theories concerning tectonic plates and massive, one shot, erosion can dispute what they see with their very eyes.
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tsig Member (Idle past 2908 days) Posts: 738 From: USA Joined: |
I don't know, when i saw the Grand Canyon it was obvious I was looking into millions of years.
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