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Author Topic:   Solving the Mystery of the Biblical Flood
King David
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Message 105 of 460 (4470)
02-14-2002 12:49 AM


I didnt read most of this thread, but id just like to bring up a point, if its already been discussed, stating what page it is on is cool.
Anyway, if it was a worldwide flood then that would have caused the extinction of many species. For example all the Mammals and insects would not have been able to survive such a drastic change in their lifestyle. I think its obvios that insects could not have survived a flood on that scale, no food, or a landing space, would cause the death of 90% of insects for even a short period of time ( good example is my pool, no chlorine, yet within a few days its covered in insects, they cant take even that amount of water). Also any eggs floating in the water would not hatch b/c there parents arent around to take care of them as most insects do. And most mammals would simply drown. If there was a worlwide flood then why are there such a diverse number of insects and mammals in this world today that could not survive this scenario?
And then theres us. If there was a worldwide flood then humans would not back then, have had the capacity to survive such an event. Even if the world flooded slowly, we wouldnt have been able to either stock up on food, or make a craft to float on that could withstand the flood quick enough. Even if some humans survived, the population would be so decimated that humans after the flood would be so scattered and half dead, that the human species would be next to instinct.
And what about all the water, where did the water that flooded the world go to, since this didnt happen during the ice age it cant be in the glaciers, b/c this is a biblical story.
[This message has been edited by King David, 02-14-2002]

King David
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Message 107 of 460 (4526)
02-14-2002 9:23 PM
Reply to: Message 106 by wmscott
02-14-2002 4:21 PM


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Originally posted by wmscott:
The flood waters would have contained much floating debris which would have provided plenty of landing places for insects and held fresh water in small traps. On mammals, maybe that was why God had Noah build an ark, plus many survived outside the ark by rafting or on floating ice in some areas. Your points on poor chances mankind would have of surviving such an event are correct, and an explanation is given at Genesis chapters 6-9 on how man was able to survive along with a core population of animals. As to where the water went. The ice age had pulled enormous quantities of water out of the oceans, causing them to shrink and their floors to rebound upward, this in turn also caused the adjoining land to sink. Then at the end of the ice age, a sudden collapse of the ice sheets put water and ice back into the oceans much faster than the ocean floors could sink back down. This resulted in a global flood as the sea level was temporally above the level of the land. Then as the sea floor sank down under the increased weight of the deeper waters, the water drained off the land into the deepening oceans. As the oceans were pushed down, the land now freed of much of the weight of glacial ice, rose upward above the waters. On your comment. "cant be in the glaciers, b/c this is a biblical story." Why not?

Thanks for replying, again if any of my points have already been discused just point to the page.
Good point on the insects, its a possibility, though not probible due to the huge expanse of the oceans that the debri would spread over, and the reletivly short flying span of insects, but I'll leave that alone for now. As far as Naohs ark, and the theory that thats how the world's animals were saved, I dont see how this is possible. For one, Naoh was just human, how was he supposed to get animals from around the world, like Europe, the Americas, Austraulia, etc.? A task of rounding up a pair of each of the animals, one female, one male, is humanly impossible. For example, there are hundreds of thousands of animal species around the world, if not more, rounding up a pair of each would take liftimes to accomplish, if it could be accomplished at all back then, due to the fact that they new nothing of the Americas, Australia, etc. And a ship to accomidate them all and food for the 40 day journey would no doubt be another impossible feat to accomplish, as the ship would have to be the size of something close to a modern day oil tanker, or many many times bigger.
Now about your theory of how the entire world flooded. You stated that the ice age pulled huge amounts of water out of the oceans, causing the ocean floors to move upwards, and the land masses to sink. Why would the land sink if the ocean floors rose upwards. And, just because there is less water in the actuall oceans deosnt mean that there is less mass on top of the ocean floors which would therefore make the ocean floors rise due to lower presure from above. Wether ice or water, it still wieghs the same. Also im confused as to how an ocean floor can move upwards or downwards, when your talking about the entire planet's floors. Now i can imagine the ocean floors of a particular region receeding, or moving upwards, but when you say that the entire planet's ocean's floors move down towards the core, or upwards ( which is whats need to have the entire world flood)then your saying that the space where the ocean floors are receeding to is simply disapeering. Its like decreesing the radius of the earth and the solid rock underneath the floors simply ceases to exist, and if the ocean floors rise, its like increasing earths radius and new matter simply comes into existence to fill in that space.
You said at the end of the ice age is when the ice sheets collapsed, and therefore flooded the world. However if ice sheets "collapse", that deosnt creat new water, the ice sheets would still float, and the same water level would exist. As for the rains due to the impact of meteors, the ice would simply melt in that region of the impact which would no doubt hinder its ability to travel very high into the atmosphere, which is need to create actual rains.
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