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LudoRephaim
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Message 211 of 262 (402668)
05-29-2007 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 210 by Bigfoot
05-28-2007 11:13 PM


THose pictuuures
the second pic was taken during Trollapalooza, 1293 AD. They stayed virgin until marraige in those days (unless you where a Dragon, Black Knight or dwarf). Nuthin but a whole lotta medeval metal bands and acid during that celebration. He and the girl got hitched a few days later, ie las Rome.
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LudoRephaim
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Message 212 of 262 (409584)
07-10-2007 10:37 AM


BIGFOOT EXHIBIT AT NATURAL HISTORY MUSEUM
This might be of interest to thoe who debated on this thread. In an Idaho Natural History Museum, there is an exhibit about Sasquatch that takes a Neutral position on the controversy, with such artifacts as the Patterson video, the branch the sasquatch is said to have stepped on in the filming of that footage, Rene Dahiden's flannel shirt (a major Bigfoot investigator) and even hair samples said to be from the legendary critter (Nosy might find that aspect intersting).
Here is a link:
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LudoRephaim
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Message 213 of 262 (410193)
07-13-2007 5:26 PM


Another exhibition, AMNH
The American Museum of Natural History has a section on mythical creatures, with a seemingly exhibit on Sasquatch, which includes a excellent Gigantopithecus and a listing on some sasquatch critters seen arouind the world.
see here for more...
http://www.amnh.org/...ions/mythiccreatures/land/bigfoot.php

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LudoRephaim
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Message 214 of 262 (410195)
07-13-2007 5:35 PM


more on this exhibit
this website has more info (should be the same, but might be a different museum), showing a HUGE Gigantopithecus/sasquatch figure seemingly a lot larger than the other more Orangutan-like figure in th first website. Looks more like friggin KING KONG than Bigfoot, Geesh! It does relate the likelyhood of Yeti over other wildmen as being real/legit.
see below:
Sorry, that's a dead link (404) | Natural History Museum

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LudoRephaim
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Message 215 of 262 (440080)
12-11-2007 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Nuggin
05-17-2007 5:51 PM


Penn State Bigfoot
Hey Nuggin. Been a while. If your still interested, there was a few photos taken in the wilds of Pennsylvania showing what some are considering a Bigfoot. It is still debated on whether it is a Bigfoot or a mangy Bear that is horribly thin, but in the BFRO website below there is a pic of it below that of the lower 48 that shows it sniffing the ground in a way that I cannot remember seeing a Bear actually doing so. It looks more like an ape posture, but The jury is still out on this one.
See below:
http://www.bfro.net/avevid/jacobs/jacobs_photos.asp
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307020,00.html

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LudoRephaim
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Message 216 of 262 (476388)
07-23-2008 12:05 PM


Monsterquest
For those of you slightly or greatly interested in the bigfoot topic: I dont know if this has been brought up before on this site, but there is a pretty good show on crypto-zoology critters on the history channel called "monsterquest". Of particular interest is an episode on the "Ohio Grassman", a gorilla-like Bigfoot critter sighted, supposidly leaving large grass nests, hence the name. On that episode they found in the woods a skull of a Baboon (in the Ohio forests!) and a handprint that, based on the opinion of a forensic expert with skills in both human and ape dermal ridges (on fingers, hands and feet), concluded that the handprint was very gorilla like, but actual identification was impossible to know.
This is the show's website:
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You can find all the episodes so far (including the one about the Ohio grassman) on Youtube simply by putting "Monsterquest" in its search engine.
A baboon skull, a gorilla-like hand print, in the woods of Ohio...What is going in in the backwoods of the Buck-eye state???

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Message 217 of 262 (476798)
07-26-2008 8:25 PM
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07-23-2008 12:05 PM


Re: Monsterquest
A baboon skull, a gorilla-like hand print, in the woods of Ohio...What is going in in the backwoods of the Buck-eye state???
A lot of sightings and sounds are alleged to come out of Ohio. Oklahoma is another one. Obviously the Pacific Northwest is the bulk, but that kind of goes without saying.

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LudoRephaim
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Message 218 of 262 (476948)
07-28-2008 8:24 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by Hyroglyphx
07-26-2008 8:25 PM


Re: Monsterquest
Yes, a lot of sightings seem to span the whole lower 48. A lot of the eastern states sightings ("eastern Bigfoot") seem associated with unusual phenomena, such as the monsters dissappearing in full view (like sci-fi channel's "the Invisible man") and yet leaving anomolous hair samples, as well as nearby UFo sightings. I'll post a source for this info if you want, but another name for the eastern monsgters is "Hairy Bipeds".
If the Gorilla like handprint is not of the fabled "Ohio Grassman" (i wont confirm or deny it just yet), then it makes me think that there is som e primate research lab somwhere nearby where that show was made, and some of the apes and monkeys in it somehow escaped.

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LudoRephaim
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Message 219 of 262 (476950)
07-28-2008 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 204 by anglagard
05-27-2007 3:12 AM


Re: Just Say No to Bigfoot etc.
Hey anglagard.
Evidently you have not spent enough time in the wilderness of the American west to see all kinds of things, indlucing cadavers and bones. I have personally seen black bears dozens of times, along with every bgger than squirrel mammal i know of that hangs out round these parts, except a bobcat.
I have often went on hunting trips into the deep east Texas wilderness (my Dad loves to hunt and took me when i was younger)as well as camped and hiked a lot. I remember once coming across a number of large bones on a dirt trail, which I took for a cow (Being no anatomist or biologist, i could have misidentified the bones...), but i cannot recall ever seeing another dead animal in the woods that was not recently shot.
I have ever seen a sasquatch in the Texas woods, but i have never seen Cougars there either, even though i came across a track that seemed to have been made by one (very huge might it add, though to this day i dont know whether it was made by a cougar or a massive dog). I have seen numerous snakes; the woods can be saturated with them. But i've never seen a dead one unless freshly killed by a person or a dog.
If Bigfoot exists, we know next to didly squat about their biology and living habits when compared to blackbears and other animals known to science. That could possibly hinder a person from finding a dead one in the woods (if you know a whole lot about Blackbears, you will most likely know where to find dead ones along with living ones).
True, many people who have went through the deep wilderness of the west have not found sasquatch or things like Sasquatch scat and hair or corpses. That's probably the same experience that African explorers had when going through Gorilla country; no dead bodies of Gorillas, hair or scat, but some other dead well known animals nearby. Similar things were probably said of Giant Pandas, Giant Squid, Orangutans, Colossal Squids, Komodo Dragons, Koupreys, Saolas, Kermode Spirit Bears (black bears with white hair, such a contrast), Onza (somewhat wolf-like population of Mexican Cougars), King Cheetahs (stocky, darker spotted, snarly Cheetah that is born nowand again among populations of normal cheetahs), Giant Forest Hog (Africa), Okapi, etc.
BTW: are you a field biologist? I could have sworn you mentioned being in the wilderness of several states in a post shortly after the one i am responding to you now. A person who is capable of finding numerous black bear bodies in the woods must be well trained and skilled to find them.
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Message 220 of 262 (476958)
07-29-2008 12:03 AM
Reply to: Message 204 by anglagard
05-27-2007 3:12 AM


Re: Just Say No to Bigfoot etc.
There was a question downthread, and I would like to amplify on it.
Have you actually seen bear bones in the wilderness?
We rarely have bear in my neck of the woods, and the ones we do have are most likely dumped by the Forest Service (garbage bears). They head for the nearest towns pretty quickly.
I have never seen a carnivore skeleton, and only rarely have I seen isolated carnivore bones, and this is after decades of regular wilderness trekking.
Is this your experience as well?
I studied physical anthropology under one of the bigfoot experts in grad school, and he was of the opinion that carnivore skeletons are extremely hard to find. He presumed that Bigfoot would be similarly difficult to find as well.

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Message 221 of 262 (477020)
07-29-2008 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 216 by LudoRephaim
07-23-2008 12:05 PM


Re: Monsterquest
thanks for the 411. i have watch many of them. i found the sasquatch attacks episode the most compelling.

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LudoRephaim
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Message 222 of 262 (477032)
07-29-2008 3:26 PM
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07-29-2008 12:50 PM


Rebel Bigfoot Hunter
Thanks for the 411.
Thanks man. The one that really spooked me was the one on the Giant Humbolt squid; A squid that vicious and that big (60 feet if a humbolt, 108 feet if a regular giant squid)that was seen on the video tape could possibly even cause someone just watching it on the net or tv to need clean underwear. It makes me think of HP lovecraft's "The Call of Cthulhu". I cant wait for the shows to come out on DVD for sale at a local bookstore or video store.
If you want to read some interesting research and stuff on Bigfoot, id recommend "Sasquatch: leend meets science" by Jeff Meldrum. It does a pretty good job showing the evidence for sasquatch.
BTW: love the avatar! The South shall rise again!!!!
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Message 223 of 262 (477047)
07-29-2008 6:45 PM
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07-28-2008 8:24 PM


Re: Monsterquest
Apparently it's already been Youtube'd

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anglagard
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Message 224 of 262 (477052)
07-29-2008 7:34 PM
Reply to: Message 220 by Coyote
07-29-2008 12:03 AM


Re: Just Say No to Bigfoot etc.
Coyote writes:
Have you actually seen bear bones in the wilderness?
I have seen the various limb and once a hip bone which by process of elimination I took to be from black bears. Have not seen a skull, complete skeleton, or cadaver of a bear as I have with several herbivore species such as pronghorn antelope, bighorn sheep, and of course deer.
The point I was trying to make was that TAZ must have been looking in the wrong place or just had some bad luck in spotting black bears in the West. I have seen many in CA, NM, and one in AZ usually far off but did surprise one taking a dump from about 30 feet away while taking geology field camp. Now that was fresh scat and prints. Interestingly we also damn near ran over a large mountain lion on the way back from the bar one night during the same course in a department van.
In the late 60s you could hardly miss seeing black bears from the comfort of your car in Yosemite Valley, surprised they didn't try to wash the windshield for spare change.
I have never seen a carnivore skeleton, and only rarely have I seen isolated carnivore bones, and this is after decades of regular wilderness trekking.
Is this your experience as well?
Yes, only saw that one mountain lion alive and just black bear individual bones, not a complete skeleton. However, if one downsizes to your namesake, they are often roadkill around here. Almost nailed a few myself.
I studied physical anthropology under one of the bigfoot experts in grad school, and he was of the opinion that carnivore skeletons are extremely hard to find. He presumed that Bigfoot would be similarly difficult to find as well.
Perhaps, but in my experience tracks and turds are not. Don't these purported critters ever take a crap or do they bury it like a housecat?

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anglagard
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Message 225 of 262 (477053)
07-29-2008 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 219 by LudoRephaim
07-28-2008 8:50 PM


Re: Just Say No to Bigfoot etc.
LudoRepaim writes:
I have often went on hunting trips into the deep east Texas wilderness (my Dad loves to hunt and took me when i was younger)as well as camped and hiked a lot. I remember once coming across a number of large bones on a dirt trail, which I took for a cow (Being no anatomist or biologist, i could have misidentified the bones...), but i cannot recall ever seeing another dead animal in the woods that was not recently shot.
One usually smells them before seeing them. Just follow the vultures, they know where to look. Also creeks and bodies of water seem to be a favorite for half-rotten cadavers.
I have ever seen a sasquatch in the Texas woods, but i have never seen Cougars there either, even though i came across a track that seemed to have been made by one (very huge might it add, though to this day i dont know whether it was made by a cougar or a massive dog). I have seen numerous snakes; the woods can be saturated with them. But i've never seen a dead one unless freshly killed by a person or a dog.
My coworker has evidently seen a cougar that includes his property 10 miles south of town here in his rounds. Also have encountered a few dead rattlesnakes, but it's not the dead ones that worry me that much.
If Bigfoot exists, we know next to didly squat about their biology and living habits when compared to blackbears and other animals known to science. That could possibly hinder a person from finding a dead one in the woods (if you know a whole lot about Blackbears, you will most likely know where to find dead ones along with living ones).
It seems these purported creatures favor areas with lots of undergrowth and cover such as the Pacific Northwest to foil those park rangers and spy satellites.
True, many people who have went through the deep wilderness of the west have not found sasquatch or things like Sasquatch scat and hair or corpses. That's probably the same experience that African explorers had when going through Gorilla country; no dead bodies of Gorillas, hair or scat, but some other dead well known animals nearby. Similar things were probably said of Giant Pandas, Giant Squid, Orangutans, Colossal Squids, Komodo Dragons, Koupreys, Saolas, Kermode Spirit Bears (black bears with white hair, such a contrast), Onza (somewhat wolf-like population of Mexican Cougars), King Cheetahs (stocky, darker spotted, snarly Cheetah that is born nowand again among populations of normal cheetahs), Giant Forest Hog (Africa), Okapi, etc.
Perhaps those great white hunters and explorers should have asked the natives. Then they would have either found the creatures fairly quickly or not at all (as in the case of some alleged creatures and various other things of interest like 'cities of gold')
BTW: are you a field biologist? I could have sworn you mentioned being in the wilderness of several states in a post shortly after the one i am responding to you now. A person who is capable of finding numerous black bear bodies in the woods must be well trained and skilled to find them.
No, one of my degrees is in geological engineering but I did give up hunting animals for hunting rare minerals as a hobby. Also, as I was explaining to Coyote, I have not found any complete skeletons or cadavers or black bears as I have with some herbivores. My experiences with wild black bears have been mainly limited to the living.
I hope this clears up any confusion as to my experiences, sorry if I somehow accidentally mislead you or Coyote.
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