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jar
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Message 7 of 62 (317533)
06-04-2006 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tennessee R
06-04-2006 3:06 AM


On the Flood and the Ark
In Message 289 TR said:
Now you are calling the Bible a liar. Call man a liar (even falsely) and I can still give you some respect.
But call the Bible a liar? I draw the line.
But, here, perhaps I should clarify your statement one more time.
Based on your previous statement, I can reasonably assume that you don't believe the Bible.
Is that true?
Do I believe the Bible? Yes.
Do I believe the Bible is literally correct as a history? Mostly no.
Was there a world-wide flood? No, of course not. Atleast not in the last 600,000 years or so.
And I don't call the Bible a liar but I do know that much of it is fable, myth.
Here is the problem. As a Christian I find the material that Ron Wyatt has accummulated and presented to be an embarassment. His idea of evidence and proof is about what you would expect to see at a 5th. or 6th. grade science fair, but certainly would not be accepted at the middle school level. In addition, he has falsified evidence, withheld evidence that refutes his position, and misrepresented what he found.
So far not one piece of evidence that has ever been presented here or in the film I saw about the Exodus has stood up to critical examination. If you have evidence which you would like considered then by all means present it to us, but as I said, so far nothing that has ever been presented here in support of one of Ron's "discoveries" has stood up to examination.
It is possible that Ron found something. It was not the Ark since there was not a Flood, but he may have found something. Please present what evidence you do have and it is possible that someone here may be able to help you determine what it is.
Edited by jar, : added requisite spalling arrers
Edited by jar, : Fix wording
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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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jar
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Posts: 34026
From: Texas!!
Joined: 04-20-2004


Message 21 of 62 (317639)
06-04-2006 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Tennessee R
06-04-2006 3:00 PM


Re: On the Flood and the Ark
Huck Finn is a great example. Like the Bible it is meant to teach as well as entertain. Yes, it is fiction. Much of the Bible is the same, fiction designed to teach a lesson.
As to Ron Wyatt and his so called evidence, I think you first need to understand what evidence is and how such things must be approached in science. One thing you MUST do in science is present both the evidence that supports your position as well as the evidence that does not support or even refutes your position.
For example, concerning the rivets, if Ron had been doing real science he would present all of the possibile explanations for their source. This is an error that is consistant throughout the evidence that has been presented here at EvC in support of WAR. Other examples are the so called calf altar, the wheels, the alleged "guard shack", the examples you mention of tombstones and place names.
Each of these has been discussed here at EvC at some depth and over many threads.
Please understand, the criticism of Ron's claimed finds is not anti-Christian. many of us are Christians, I have been one for well over 60 years, nor is it an attack on the Bible. rather it is a criticism of what Ron considered science or evidence and of some peoples interpretations of the Bible.
Just like Evolution, this is not a religious conflict.
Here are a few links to threads, some with JimSDA who was also an employee at WAR IIRC.
Message 254
Message 100
Message 1
Message 1
Message 1

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