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johnfolton 
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Message 227 of 307 (426464)
10-06-2007 11:17 PM


Drugs side effects (Doctors need to be educated)
The problem is the oversimplification of the horrendous side effects of drugs given in good faith by doctor to patient.
My own sister given prozac when the cause of her hyper state was another drug called sudafed. She stopped taking sudafed and got off prozac (she read the side effects interesting the doctor didn't put it together yet he prescribed both sudafed and prozac?) humm...
How many people are being killed by the side effects and the ignorance or willfull ignorance of the doctors to listening to the patient.
Another person had a back operation but the pain was horrendous she complained but the doctor wrote in her account that she just wanted more pain drugs. Finally in desperation to go by her doctor she went to the emergency room and they did an MRI cat scan and would not you know it her disk had exploded and they recommended immediate surgery.
Now she is still on a pain medicine that has exploded her triglerides and would not you know its one of the side effects that she had to bring to the doctors attention. The doctor "God syndrome" I'm the doctor and wanted her to go on statin drugs yet even on statin drugs her triglercides are elevated. She wants off statin drugs because its not helping lower her triglecerides but the doctor feels more comfortable keeping her on them. Its quite interesting that its almost mandatory for people to take statin drugs when "the undocumented evidence is mounting" that it affects memory by affecting chloestrol support for the brains glial cells in respect to the neurons, etc...
The Side Effects of Lipitor and How They Affect the Memory - Spacedoc - Your expert with 30+ years experience
If you don't take your own health and check up on the side effects likely they will prescribe more drugs to counter the side effects. In respect to the lady with high triglercides they wanted her to take a statin drug and well would not you know its side effects is memory problems. Well she stopped taking the statin drugs and her altimimers symptoms went away though the doctor said the statin drugs are not the cause. The problem is all the documented and undocumented sideffects of commonly prescribed drugs that are destroying peoples lives.
I can understand lithium depacote for helping glial cells nutrition in depression or those having epileptic attacks but there appears to be a big problem in what drugs are good needed or just being prescribed to counter a side effect, etc...
In fact nutra sweet, aspartame is known to help cause epileptic attacks yet its not being baned. The question is why? Is the FDA and the drug companies like a satanic triune to create problems to increase drugs sales of their withcraft brews. Cod liver oil likely is interesting prescribed in other countries after one has a heart attack but interestingly this common sense approach is not common sense here in america.
I believe holistic is real medicine of the future and just prescribing prozac as candy is borderline withcraft. With all the herbicides pesticides used in the school thats known to affect nerves in children it appears Satanic brews to play with their minds. Add a little flouride to toothpaste and people become more complacant (was not floride used by hitler for mind control).
If it was not that Luke was a physcian that likely cared about the health of the individual. I do not see the bible condoning brews of herbs, marijuana, etc..., drugs to manipulate others minds as we know prozac tends to encourage suicide, herbicides pesiticides affect ones nerves and hormonal problems for both young and old. Heck its said alligators in florida have major problems due to herbicides, pesticides yet we continue to have a bug free school and one wonders if its not a scam by the drug companies to cause children to become hyperactive. Does not many of the drug companies too own herbicide pesticide companies. The bible does talk of their wine is like the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asp. I find it interesting that "some" pesticides is ascribed similar to the venom of snakes. Is this an accident I think not though I'm sure you all beg to disagree.
http://www.newstarget.com/021768.html
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/agent/nerve/tsd.asp
Chemicalinjury.net
But no one questions the status quo kids are forced at times to take ritlin, prozac drugs that are powerful to say the least. Parents at times are forced to comply. Flouride too is a powerful element yet the skinny on its benefit in tooth decay is only take their word even if the evidence is contrary. If you want less tooth decay don't use flouride tooth paste brush your teeth with dr. bronner phosphate soap(do a google search for Dr. Gerald Judd and flouride).
Mercury in ones teeth is not safe its known that amalgams age get old and have to be replaced due the cationic bonds are not strong yet were told amalgams are safe in spite of evidence to the contrary. Studies with mercury free sheep given amalgams suddenly have elevated mercury yet this toxic element that affects your mind is continually being used to every citizen unless you request ceramic substitutes. (check out do amalgams age).
P.S. The FDA the ADA should ban flouride, mercury, pesticides, herbicides, Statin drugs, but the problem is the willfull ignorance of doctors. The bible does say let herbs be for food yet its againsts using drugs or herbs to manipulate minds as we see happening here in America with the blessing of the FDA, the ADA and the drug companies.
I'm just venting due to the ignorance of the ignorant. Take some almonds a day to keep cancer at bay, etc... Don't forget to take your b-12 sublingual each day to get your natural cyanide each day. I find it interesting how foods are refortified after natural cyanide is taken and how cancer has multiplied. In fact natural appears better and the un natural drugs side effects really need to be monitored by the doctors prescribing them. If a patient says something it should not be washed under the rug as my good friend whose disk had ruptured and the doctor actually wanted her to go back to work. He believed she wanted more pain medicine which she did because the pain would not quit not that she wanted pain medicine.
She wanted an MRI but since she had just had surgery they didn't believe her disk had re-ruptured and the only way an MRI could be paid by insurance by bypassing the doctor was the emergency room.
I bitched out a cardiac doctor for being ignorant of chelation he said it was witchcraft and I told this doctor that he was simply ignorant. It was amazing too me someone able to correct leaking heart valves with pigs valves are so ignorant of holistic medicine yet if someone has elevated lead levels its the prescribed treatment, etc...
I'm not sure doctors are the problem its roots appear much deeper perhaps the controversy herbs verses the drugs. Its like those ignorant of the benefits of cyanide likely will side with the drug companies such ignorance is likely a spiritual thing and not about what helps the health of the individual.
Don't Cut The Cord - from Ronnie Falcão's Midwife Archives
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johnfolton 
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Message 229 of 307 (426485)
10-07-2007 4:35 AM
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10-07-2007 3:10 AM


Re: Drugs side effects (Doctors need to be educated)
In America we have integrated alternative medical doctors that might be another option if you have alternative holistic medical doctors that can get natural hormone replacement from compounding pharmacies.
An example as we age our hormonal levels drop and through altenative integrated approaches using natural hormones to bring levels up to normal using compounding pharmacies. In respect to a woman I believe estrogen is made up of 3 parts the part you need as you age is not the part that causes cancer. An integrated doctor could prescribe a natural estrogen from a compounding pharmacy. 80/10/10 and test what your levels actually are. Premarin gives the woman all the wrong concentrations and is believed the cause of breast cancer which is why millions of american woman are turning to natural replacement hormones from compounding pharmacies.
File not found - Your Local Jonesboro Pharmacy
Right now the FDA is waging an attack on the woman to beable to have natural hormone replacement through compounding pharmacies. The big drug lord the FDA wants to eliminate the competion due to Suzanne Summers.
http://md.organicframework.com/p/333.html
Suzanne Summers has threatened status quo soon woman in America may have to use horse urine premarin with all the horse equine estrogens cause the drug companies apparently feel threatened.
Page Not Found - Pierce Mattie Communications
If you have an integrated medical doctor might have them check your cortisone levels the skinny a little is better. You'd have to talk to an integrated medical doctor but what I seem to remember is 5 mg helps when supported with natural hormone replacement. The problem with cortisone is they prescribe more than 5 mg where it becomes harmful. Its a drug though and would need to be monitored by an integrated medical doctor. It was one of those drugs some integrated medical doctors use in low amounts to effect postive change as one ages.
If your into herb stuff checkout Hulda Clarks books on parasites its quite interesting.
Home - Dr. Clark Information Center
Chlorophyll liquid might be something that might work in helping purge your body of residual mercury some feel it helps like chelation in eliminating heavy metals. Something to ask your natural path if its something to be a part of your regime.
Integrated medicine appears under attack by the FDA in respect to the woman getting natural hormone replacement treatment. If your not taking any drugs there is only one other natural way of hormone replacement. Its discusting but interesting (its out of the FDA's control)and can only be done from thy own well not someone elses taken with unflouridated water (cistern) and only if your not taking drugs (even herbs vitamens might need to be toned back or stopped))because you'd be returning them to thy well. It was mainly written for the marriage bed mid life crisis stuff to rejoice with the wife of thy youth, etc...
Its quite similar to what Suzanne Summers says in respect to her marriage using hormonal replacement(she said she rejoices in her marriage because her husband too partakes in hormonal replacement therapy). kjv proverbs 5:18
King James Bible
Drink waters out of thine own cistern, and running waters out of thine own well.
Proverbs 5:15 Drink water from your own cistern, and running water from your own well.
Here is another interesting diet not preaching Religion just another diet pulse and water. If you search the meaning of pulse its meaning is legume vegetables that are high in assimulative complex proteins similiarly like soy proteins. It augments the lack of meat proteins with vegetable proteins with only water making it an interesting diet. It does not say milk or leafy vetables simply pulse and water. authorized kjv Daniel 1:12
http://ebiblediet.org/index.html
You can augment a lack of meat with soy protein with a vegetable diet lacking pulse vegetables.
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Personally I like meat but the mediteranean diet appear the closest to the Daniel diet making it in my mind the second best diet. Olive oil, meat in small amounts, etc...
Mediterranean diet for heart health - Mayo Clinic
I don't post much anymore but wish you and your daughter well.
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