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Archer Opteryx
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Message 191 of 304 (418705)
08-29-2007 10:33 PM
Reply to: Message 177 by nator
08-28-2007 6:16 PM


How to Sell your Own Woo Medicine (and Stay Out of Jail)
nator:
Why, then, are ND's allowed to prescribe any treatment or theraputic substance which hasn't been rigorously tested and shown to be safe and effective?
They can do it because, legally speaking, they are not prescribing medicines. They are recommending diet supplements. They enjoy the same innocent-until-proven-guilty legal standing as your auntie recommending a bowl of chicken soup when you have a cold.
The fine print on the label on any 'nature med' explicitly denies that the contents are medicine. The labels say straight out that the contents have not been shown through scientific means to have any curative effects for any disease. The companies aren't committing fraud because the companies make no claim.
The people who believe in the stuff ignore the disclaimers on the label. They rely on magazines, paperbacks, web sites and word-of-mouth reports (like some of the material quoted on this thread) for all their information about what the stuff 'really' does. The companies who sell it are (ahem) not legally responsible for the rumours that go around.
People who buy the stuff are quick to observe, too, that the absence of any research supporting the effectiveness of the 'natural' stuff means the (apparent) absence of side effects as well. If you show them that the label of their 'nature med' says flat out that the stuff isn't medicine, they will happily ask you to read the fine print on any prescription meds in your cabinet. Inevitably a document has been placed in the box of any prescription med describing the undesirable things some individuals had to deal with when research was conducted. It gives you the statistics.
The 'nature med' believers don't take much note of the benefits of research, accountability, and disclosure. What they see is 'My medicine has no known side effects. But look what that poison does to you!'
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Archer Opteryx
Member (Idle past 3619 days)
Posts: 1811
From: East Asia
Joined: 08-16-2006


Message 195 of 304 (418779)
08-30-2007 9:33 AM
Reply to: Message 193 by nator
08-30-2007 8:35 AM


Re: How to Sell your Own Woo Medicine (and Stay Out of Jail)
Absolutely! I am well aware of all you've said and agree completely.
I know you do, 'Nator, and understand your reasons for asking PD the question. I offered my 'answer' as collaboration, really, for the benefit of our lurkers.
The observations come from sad experience. I know individuals who ignored excellent medical advice from exceptionally qualified doctors because of claims they saw for woo 'alternatives' in popular magazines.
Just another aside: I'm not sure where the word came in but for me the word 'holistic' is not the most helpful term to describe this phenomenon.
In the absence of a precise definition of the word I would likely say I favour 'holistic health care' if asked. That's because for me the term refers to a wellness philosophy that emphasizes getting regular check-ups and maintaining overall fitness in addition to having specialists attack specific health issues that arise. This approach has nothing to do with supporting quack meds. (The peddlers of quack meds love to spout the philosophy, though.) How practical the approach is for any individual has much to do, though, with the availability and terms of health insurance in the society.
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