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Silent H
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Message 16 of 44 (280021)
01-19-2006 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by berberry
01-19-2006 1:04 PM


Re: Kurasawa
Runaway Train with Eric Roberts and Jon Voight
You know I never saw that one, simply because I don't like Jon Voight... well don't like is too harsh, he just doesn't draw me in. I will add that to the list.
Mel Brooks 1968 The Producers
Heheheh... I always got a kick out of that film.

holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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Silent H
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Message 17 of 44 (280022)
01-19-2006 1:41 PM
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01-19-2006 1:12 PM


Re: Also...
the original Cat People, a horror film about sexual repression notable for the way its low budget enhances its scariness by relying on the psychology of its characters and the universal fear of the unknown.
Oh, I've always wanted to see that but never had the chance. I was only able to see the "remake" with Nastassia Kinski.
Along those same lines, the original The Haunting, is fantastic. Its essentially all psychology of the characters. Watching the remake of that made me very very angry, they replaced pure psychological horror with the cheap thrills of "He was a child killer" and CGI.

holmes
"...what a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.."(D. Bros)

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docpotato
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Message 18 of 44 (280024)
01-19-2006 1:58 PM
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01-19-2006 1:41 PM


Re: Also...
Oh, I've always wanted to see that but never had the chance.
Don't know if it's available where you are, but it was recently released on DVD as part of a Val Lewton box set. He was a producer and is known as someone who made low-budget thriller or horror films relying on all those psychological elements. Cat People is the only film in the set I've gotten a chance to view thus far, so I can't recommend the whole set, but Cat People is out there... now if they would just get going on a nice release for Double Indemnity
The director of Cat People, Jacques Tourneur also directed a wonderful film noir called Out of the Past. I was lucky enough to see this on the big screen when I was in high school (at a revival theater) and I developed a mega-crush on the lead actress of that film, Jane Greer.
Finally something on EvC I can talk about with a degree of authority!
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Silent H
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Message 19 of 44 (280046)
01-19-2006 3:52 PM
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01-19-2006 1:58 PM


Re: Also...
Out of the Past.
Oh yeah, Kirk Douglas and Robert Mitchum? Seen that one for sure.

holmes
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Silent H
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Message 20 of 44 (280047)
01-19-2006 3:58 PM
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01-19-2006 1:58 PM


Re: Also...
I looked up Tourneur at imdb, and discovered that I had also seen another movie of his that I liked called Night of the Demon.

holmes
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docpotato
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Message 21 of 44 (280049)
01-19-2006 4:08 PM
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01-19-2006 3:58 PM


Re: Also...
Night of the Demon
If you liked Night of the Demon I feel safe in saying you'll like Cat People just as much. Same technique... atmosphere, well-observed psychology, and inevitable consequences. Cat People is also lacking the artificially tacked on unconvincing monster effects that hurt Demon's beginning and end a bit.

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Tusko
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Message 22 of 44 (280066)
01-19-2006 5:33 PM
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01-19-2006 9:47 AM


Here's a couple that I've watched recently -
39 Steps. The Robert Donat one, directed by Hitchcock. Piece of Haddock. What causes pip in poultry?Obscure? Not really. But great.
The Mutual Charlie Chaplins. They're very early and a two DVD set has just been released by the BFI. They were much less sentimetal than I expected, with a really nice line in anarchy and just incredible stunts.
Also, I was really blown away by "M" starring Peter Lorre as child-murderer when I saw that a few years ago.

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bobbins
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Message 23 of 44 (280113)
01-19-2006 10:10 PM
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01-19-2006 9:47 AM


My own (very personal - opinionated) opinion
Kurasawa - Great but not that great. Get a grip and stop reading Sight and Sound. Kurasawa was a western art student and the script-writer for Seven Samurai and Rashomon is a self-confessed western fan, with Stagecoach (John Wayne 1939) being a favourite. An overbearing obsession with mythical samurai.
For a real pseud feeling, catch any Murnau (esp. Der Letze Mann, Die Zwolfte Stunde (Nosferatau with sound),Sunrise and Faust. Or try Jean Vigo (only 4/5 films and you could be a completist pseud). Or Eisenstein, you can really wow the Sight and Sound crowd with a knowledge of his films. For an 'A' in cinema appreciation mention 'Le Salaire de la Peur' ('Wages of Fear') a superb thriller with a shock round every corner ( aka bump in the road).
With regard to other posts,'M' absolutely one of the best. Watch Hitchcock's 'The Lodger' for a similar feel. '39 Steps' the best 81 minutes you will spend but, watch out, for very inferior remakes. 'Cat People' very watchable and very ahead of its time. 'Thief of Baghdad' is stunning (1940 Korda version). But, Sabu great, very debatable.
List off the top of my head, Casablanca, Citizen Kane, Cabaret, Grapes of Wrath, North By Northwest, Rebecca, Singin' in the Rain, 42nd Street, High Noon, Adventures of Robin Hood. Almost all old fashioned Hollywood-studio films, with more entertainment per minute than pseudo-intellectual, auteur-driven, Cahiers du Cinema-loving entertainment crushing Truffaut, Godard, Herzog et al.
I could mention Lean, Hitchcock, Capra, Ford, Curtiz, Sturges(Preston), Walsh, Zinnemann, Lubitsch, Cukor amongst many others who espoused entertainment not self-serving self-agrandisement, and (nearly) all who valued plotting, scripting, storytelling over meaning and 'vision'.

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Message 24 of 44 (280131)
01-19-2006 10:53 PM


i saw part of lion in winter. and i really liked it.

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berberry
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Message 25 of 44 (280133)
01-19-2006 10:57 PM
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01-19-2006 10:53 PM


The Lion in Winter
Then you should see the rest of it. I'd forgotten about that one, haven't seen it in years. You're quite right, it's excellent.

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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 26 of 44 (280136)
01-19-2006 11:01 PM
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01-19-2006 10:57 PM


Re: The Lion in Winter
yeah. but i'm not so big on movies so i don't tend to remember this stuff. i own like 7 movies. four are funny (one with wesley crusher, one about giant ice melting mole rats or something, curse of the komodo, and cannibal women of the avocado...) and clerks and princess bride and donnie darko and nemo and breakfast club (on tape). that's it. cause i like them enough to watch them a lot. and the boy bought me pi for christmas. so yeah.

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crashfrog
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Message 27 of 44 (280153)
01-19-2006 11:41 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by bobbins
01-19-2006 10:10 PM


Re: My own (very personal - opinionated) opinion
Get a grip and stop reading Sight and Sound. Kurasawa was a western art student and the script-writer for Seven Samurai and Rashomon is a self-confessed western fan, with Stagecoach (John Wayne 1939) being a favourite. An overbearing obsession with mythical samurai.
Which is funny, because the best westerns are the ones based on the samurai mythos. (Nobody's mentioned any Sergio Leone movies? WTF? He's a great director.)
Also, Sam Raimi. Great filmmaker. I recently bought The Quick and the Dead. An almost perfect movie.

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ReverendDG
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Message 28 of 44 (280185)
01-20-2006 4:14 AM
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01-19-2006 11:41 PM


Re: My own (very personal - opinionated) opinion
heck you can't talk about sam raimi without talking about the evil dead movies , first one was pretty much straight horror, pretty good imo, but i liked evil dead 2 and army of darkness - funny as can be, and his camara styles were used later in hercules and xena

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ReverendDG
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Message 29 of 44 (280186)
01-20-2006 4:16 AM


hey if you really want a good laugh, theres always mel brooks movies like blazing saddles and young frankenstein, though the producers is good

  
berberry
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Message 30 of 44 (280191)
01-20-2006 5:19 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by crashfrog
01-19-2006 1:26 PM


Sabu
Sorry, I probably shouldn't have used the word 'great', but when I was a kid I sure thought he was. The local cinemas used to often have children's matinees. I can remember seeing this one at about the age of 10 and I fell in love with Sabu. I thought he was the best looking kid I'd ever seen.
Looking at the movie as an adult I wouldn't call him great, but he was certainly good and he had an undeniable charisma.
His masterpiece, if he can be considered to have had one, was Jungle Book, the trailer for which is available for free download at the Internet Archive's Sabucat Movie Trailers (I wrote the review).

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